2017 tentative grow list - Page 18

Gardeneer · March 6, 2017

3/6/207
I think I made a history down here by planting out 8 tomatoes.
The official Ag recommendation is after April 10th.
Here they are :
ANANNAS NOIRE, BRANDY BOY, BW SUDDUTH, BROWN HEART, MYSTERY BLACK, MORTGAGE LIFTER , BIG RAINBOW , HILLBILLY.

Jimbotomateo · March 6, 2017

Cool Gardeneer. Do you have plans to cover if you get a snap, or just let the chips fall? I know you got plenty of backups.lol. Jimbo

Gardeneer · March 6, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbotomateo

Cool Gardeneer. Do you have plans to cover if you get a snap, or just let the chips fall? I know you got plenty of backups.lol. Jimbo

Thanks Jimbo.
Yes I do have plan to protect them. I have so far planted 12. The first 4 were planted out on Feb 23 . I have protected them 4 night so far.
Forecast calls for a low of 33 this coming Sunday night (3-12).

Then everything looks fine until March 20th. When that is behind us, I will plant out some more, depending on the 15 days forecast. I will still have my second batch. But they won't be ready until mid April. By then we should be out of the woods. Our average LFD is April 10th.

Lindalana · March 7, 2017

Oh brother,
am just starting but that is about what am growing 2017. Had to use 2013 seeds so most new seeds are left for next year.

Anna Russian- repeat
Belarusian heart
Mazarini
Mont Athos
Orange Minsk heart
Danko-repeat

Blue friut
Medvezhia Lapa
Bulgarian Tozala Egpu
Ispanskiy Giant
Black
Rebel Yell- repeat
Burcham's New generation
Weisnict's Ukrainian
Sasha Altai
Matsu exptress
Tarasenko 6
Ganti
Stuhmer
Blue River
Perito Italian
Tom Patti's Italian Paste
Marge Polish pride
Arkashin
Chagbka

Pecherskie 278
Jutland
Adelia
Kenosha paste
Cole
Damskie Palchiki
Pierce Pride
Blackhawk
Italian Plum
Yagodka
Cesu Agrais
Zagadka
Gruntovwy
Orange Minsk
Novosadsky Jabuchar

Slavic Masterpiece
Ukrainian vining
Russian Persimmon
Cruise
Barlow Jap
Raspberry Supreme- returning
JD C tex
Captain Lucky

Cherry
Agatha
Igor
Black cherry
Riesentraube
Gardener's delight
For exhibition
Uluru ochre
Isis candy
Black plum
Shedra slivka Tarasenka
Striped sweetheart dark
Brandywine cherry
Justyna
Esterina 1
Sweet aperitif F1
Sungold F1

Returning varieties

Marianne peace
Missouri pink love apple
Noire Charbonneuse
Blue Sky
Indian Stripe
Olena Ukrainian
Earl Faux
Crnkovic Yugosavian
Altai Orange
GGWT
Malachite box
Lithuanian
Maya and Sion Airdrie Classic
Biyskaya Roza
Bychiy Lob
Bychiy Myod
Kukla Portuguese
Guido
George Detsikas

Gardeneer · March 7, 2017

O Bro , Lindalana
That is some grow list. I have not read/heard the names of most of them.

I, myself, grow mostly know and popular varieties that have been reviewed by members here and elsewhere.

Anyway, good luck and have a great season.

Fritz77 · March 7, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

3/6/207
I think I made a history down here by planting out 8 tomatoes.
The official Ag recommendation is after April 10th.
Here they are :
ANANNAS NOIRE, BRANDY BOY, BW SUDDUTH, BROWN HEART, MYSTERY BLACK, MORTGAGE LIFTER , BIG RAINBOW , HILLBILLY.

Recommendations can be wrong if you happen to have a mild spring and you know how to protect your plants, so I wish you good luck and hope you really make history!
Looking at your picture I noticed that you used pine needles as mulch (I remember you used them also to improve your soil). Your soil looks a lot different from mine: it’s greyer and looks more sandy. I’ve never mulched my clay soil but I’m planning on doing it this year to prevent water stress and cracking when it gets really hot.
Hay is hard to find for me and I have limited access to manure. I’m not sure if I want to use plastic cloth or if nonwoven fabric mulch cloth would be effective. Pine needles would be easy to find. I’m just wondering if there could be any risk from using them. I know it would make my soil more acidic but I’m more concerned about diseases and funguses. What is your experience?

Lindalana · March 7, 2017

Gardeneer, thanks!
You are wise in sticking with fewer but true and tried. Chasing after each new "shiny" variety can get one in trouble LOL, I feel almost stressed by my backlog of seeds to try.../ not that I do not want more LOL
Thankfully most of my seeds are from Tatianatomatobase so have good references readymade as well as others from T'ville members.
The big problem I see that every year brings new list of favorites and they are like old friends- you want them to come back.... I have not grown MOPLA, Anna Russian or Marianne peace in several years...

Jimbotomateo · March 7, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lindalana

Oh brother,
am just starting but that is about what am growing 2017. Had to use 2013 seeds so most new seeds are left for next year.

Anna Russian- repeat
Belarusian heart
Mazarini
Mont Athos
Orange Minsk heart
Danko-repeat

Blue friut
Medvezhia Lapa
Bulgarian Tozala Egpu
Ispanskiy Giant
Black
Rebel Yell- repeat
Burcham's New generation
Weisnict's Ukrainian
Sasha Altai
Matsu exptress
Tarasenko 6
Ganti
Stuhmer
Blue River
Perito Italian
Tom Patti's Italian Paste
Marge Polish pride
Arkashin
Chagbka

Pecherskie 278
Jutland
Adelia
Kenosha paste
Cole
Damskie Palchiki
Pierce Pride
Blackhawk
Italian Plum
Yagodka
Cesu Agrais
Zagadka
Gruntovwy
Orange Minsk
Novosadsky Jabuchar

Slavic Masterpiece
Ukrainian vining
Russian Persimmon
Cruise
Barlow Jap
Raspberry Supreme- returning
JD C tex
Captain Lucky

Cherry
Agatha
Igor
Black cherry
Riesentraube
Gardener's delight
For exhibition
Uluru ochre
Isis candy
Black plum
Shedra slivka Tarasenka
Striped sweetheart dark
Brandywine cherry
Justyna
Esterina 1
Sweet aperitif F1
Sungold F1

Returning varieties

Marianne peace
Missouri pink love apple
Noire Charbonneuse
Blue Sky
Indian Stripe
Olena Ukrainian
Earl Faux
Crnkovic Yugosavian
Altai Orange
GGWT
Malachite box
Lithuanian
Maya and Sion Airdrie Classic
Biyskaya Roza
Bychiy Lob
Bychiy Myod
Kukla Portuguese
Guido
George Detsikas

I thought I had a good list. Now I feel like a pauper.

. I hope their all winners Linda!

. Jimbo

ilex · March 7, 2017

After second batch ("C -" means "de colgar"). Need to start a third batch. Too much to do, not enough time. I've got tomatoes around waiting me to take seeds out of them

.

Amarillo de Ladruñan
Boina verde
C – 100
C – 100 en pom de La Ribera
C – Alacon
C – Albalar
C – Almazora 1
C – Almazora 2
C – Almazora femella
C – Alt Emporda
C – Arañuel
C – Barrina gigante 1
C – Barrina gigante 2
C – Barrina grande
C – blanco de Ibiza
C – bombeta (Serra)
C – Can Pino
C – CS 3
C – des figueral
C – El Masroig
C – Ginestar
C – mallorquin (modolets)
C – Montan
C – Pinxo de Barrina
C – ramallet (Leo)
C – Sant Llorens
C – Segorbe
C – Son Sardina
C – Torreblanca
C – Venus
C – Villafranca
C – Villagonzalo
C – Villahermosa
c- frances de urraca
c- Mugro
Carabajo
Casas Altas
Castielfiabib
Cheste
Cor de bou de Altura
Corazon verde
Cuarentena
Damaso de Segorbe
Extremeño de pezon
Gigante de Alcora
Gigante de Segorbe
Iriepar
La Mora
Lucena
Mamella
Morado de Alcora
Morado de Olba
Muskiz
Negro del Bierzo
Negro manchego
Pera de Olba
Piñel gigante rojo
Plenas
Punta luze Erandio
Rosa de Almazora
Rosa de Ayerbe
Rosa de Burriana
Rosa de Castellon
Rosa de Geldo
Rosa de Hijar
Rosa de Prudencia
Tapa de puchero
Tigre rosa (Leo)
Valenciano chafau de Segorbe
Valenciano de caratren
Valenciano de la Nuria
Valenciano de Ludiente
Valenciano de Onda
Valenciano de Ontinyent
Valenciano de rambla de Altura
Valenciano de Ramon de Segorbe
Valenciano de Segorbe
Valenciano gordo de Segorbe
Valenciano rosa de Segorbe
Verdal
Verde doncella
Vicente ton de Segorbe
Xodos de enramar
Yesa
Zaragozano gordo

Spartanburg123 · March 7, 2017

Hey Gardeneer and Vader- the forecast for this weekend is calling for right at freezing for Sunday night. I was thinking of tilling up the soil this weekend, getting the peat moss and rabbit poo all mixed up in that, and letting the freeze kill a few bugs before planting. Do you think next week is safe? I haven't seen an extended forecast.

Thanks!

Darin

Gardeneer · March 7, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartanburg123

Hey Gardeneer and Vader- the forecast for this weekend is calling for right at freezing for Sunday night. I was thinking of tilling up the soil this weekend, getting the peat moss and rabbit poo all mixed up in that, and letting the freeze kill a few bugs before planting. Do you think next week is safe? I haven't seen an extended forecast.

Thanks!

Darin

Same here , Darin. (35F Sat., 30F Sunday night).
Past Sunday , our next lows will be 37 (following Tues/Wedn). 37F is ok, if the forecast is accurate. But to be safe I will cover them overnight. Then shall resume planting more by the following Thursday/ Friday.

We get the same cold air coming from the North/Northeast. My cole crops are loving it.

PS: Our Ag office recommends planting out tomatoes from April 10th onward.

Spartanburg123 · March 7, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

Same here , Darin. (35F Sat., 30F Sunday night).
Past Sunday , our next lows will be 37 (following Tues/Wedn). 37F is ok, if the forecast is accurate. But to be safe I will cover them overnight. Then shall resume planting more by the following Thursday/ Friday.

We get the same cold air coming from the North/Northeast. My cole crops are loving it.

PS: Our Ag office recommends planting out tomatoes from April 10th onward.

Well, rock on! I have about 6 "seedlings" that are now a foot tall and looking to go vertical. I really need to get them in the ground! I suppose I could cover them with buckets and such for one night...but we could have tomatoes by early June!!

Gardeneer · March 8, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartanburg123

Well, rock on! I have about 6 "seedlings" that are now a foot tall and looking to go vertical. I really need to get them in the ground! I suppose I could cover them with buckets and such for one night...but we could have tomatoes by early June!!

My first batch of seedlings are about the same size , tho healthy looking not lanky.

Since the cold snap is just days ahead of us I would say hold, couple of days at cool temps is not going to make a measurable difference. I am sure with plants that size, you will get ripe ones by early June. I am shooting for the same.

**carolyn137** · March 9, 2017

For Lindalana, just trying to catch up here which isn't going to happen until new seeds are distributed to my seed producers and the seed offer goes up.

I was so glad to see that you are growing some varieties that don't get much attention,so a few comments first.

Perito Italian, an excellent paste I got from Dave Teney who got it from Matt Perito

Gruntowy, many of them from Poland, I was once sent 4 of them. Do you know which one you have?

Kuka's Portugeuse? Which one?. There's a red beef,PL,a heart, a red beef,RL,with wispy leaves, and a red paste,RL, which IMO is not very good. All from Jackie Tarbox in MA. My fave is the heart.

You listed a Striped Sweetheart,dark, with cherries,could that be what I know as Black Striped Sweetheart, which is not a heart,but an oval with outstanding taste.

And so many others that I recognize very well since I introduced them, also ones I didn't source but have grown them and also liked them and as for mine it makes all my efforts at sourcing varieties in the past worth it.

A fabulous list,really.

Carolyn

Lindalana · March 11, 2017

Carolyn, thank you much for kind words and references! Truly appreciate!
Gruntowy is from Robert Hoser, listed from Tania, 2012. Germinated really well.
Yep, Perito Italian is from Dave Teney, glad to know it might be another winner in pastes- love growing a good one as I do lots of varied canning.
Kukla Portuguese is RL beefsteak and is from Heritage, listed as from your seed source. It is third year repeat for me as I like it for being good reliable midseason red that so many people appreciate.
Striped sweetheart dark is from Casey's, am so glad to know it is going to be good as I had to bump down some good cherries/saladette to grow this one.
Thank you for finding, saving, preserving and sharing those treasures!

March 7, 2017	#259
Lindalana Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 857	Oh brother, am just starting but that is about what am growing 2017. Had to use 2013 seeds so most new seeds are left for next year. Anna Russian- repeat Belarusian heart Mazarini Mont Athos Orange Minsk heart Danko-repeat Blue friut Medvezhia Lapa Bulgarian Tozala Egpu Ispanskiy Giant Black Rebel Yell- repeat Burcham's New generation Weisnict's Ukrainian Sasha Altai Matsu exptress Tarasenko 6 Ganti Stuhmer Blue River Perito Italian Tom Patti's Italian Paste Marge Polish pride Arkashin Chagbka Pecherskie 278 Jutland Adelia Kenosha paste Cole Damskie Palchiki Pierce Pride Blackhawk Italian Plum Yagodka Cesu Agrais Zagadka Gruntovwy Orange Minsk Novosadsky Jabuchar Slavic Masterpiece Ukrainian vining Russian Persimmon Cruise Barlow Jap Raspberry Supreme- returning JD C tex Captain Lucky Cherry Agatha Igor Black cherry Riesentraube Gardener's delight For exhibition Uluru ochre Isis candy Black plum Shedra slivka Tarasenka Striped sweetheart dark Brandywine cherry Justyna Esterina 1 Sweet aperitif F1 Sungold F1 Returning varieties Marianne peace Missouri pink love apple Noire Charbonneuse Blue Sky Indian Stripe Olena Ukrainian Earl Faux Crnkovic Yugosavian Altai Orange GGWT Malachite box Lithuanian Maya and Sion Airdrie Classic Biyskaya Roza Bychiy Lob Bychiy Myod Kukla Portuguese Guido George Detsikas Last edited by Lindalana; March 7, 2017 at 12:30 AM.

March 7, 2017	#260
Gardeneer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7 Posts: 4,920	O Bro , Lindalana That is some grow list. I have not read/heard the names of most of them. I, myself, grow mostly know and popular varieties that have been reviewed by members here and elsewhere. Anyway, good luck and have a great season. __________________ Gardeneer Happy Gardening !

March 9, 2017	#269
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	For Lindalana, just trying to catch up here which isn't going to happen until new seeds are distributed to my seed producers and the seed offer goes up. I was so glad to see that you are growing some varieties that don't get much attention,so a few comments first. Perito Italian, an excellent paste I got from Dave Teney who got it from Matt Perito Gruntowy, many of them from Poland, I was once sent 4 of them. Do you know which one you have? Kuka's Portugeuse? Which one?. There's a red beef,PL,a heart, a red beef,RL,with wispy leaves, and a red paste,RL, which IMO is not very good. All from Jackie Tarbox in MA. My fave is the heart. You listed a Striped Sweetheart,dark, with cherries,could that be what I know as Black Striped Sweetheart, which is not a heart,but an oval with outstanding taste. And so many others that I recognize very well since I introduced them, also ones I didn't source but have grown them and also liked them and as for mine it makes all my efforts at sourcing varieties in the past worth it. A fabulous list,really. Carolyn __________________ Carolyn

March 6, 2017	#257
Jimbotomateo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Santa Maria California Posts: 1,014	Cool Gardeneer. Do you have plans to cover if you get a snap, or just let the chips fall? I know you got plenty of backups.lol. Jimbo

March 7, 2017	#262
Lindalana Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 857	Gardeneer, thanks! You are wise in sticking with fewer but true and tried. Chasing after each new "shiny" variety can get one in trouble LOL, I feel almost stressed by my backlog of seeds to try.../ not that I do not want more LOL Thankfully most of my seeds are from Tatianatomatobase so have good references readymade as well as others from T'ville members. The big problem I see that every year brings new list of favorites and they are like old friends- you want them to come back.... I have not grown MOPLA, Anna Russian or Marianne peace in several years...

March 7, 2017	#264
ilex Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Spain Posts: 416	After second batch ("C -" means "de colgar"). Need to start a third batch. Too much to do, not enough time. I've got tomatoes around waiting me to take seeds out of them . Amarillo de Ladruñan Boina verde C – 100 C – 100 en pom de La Ribera C – Alacon C – Albalar C – Almazora 1 C – Almazora 2 C – Almazora femella C – Alt Emporda C – Arañuel C – Barrina gigante 1 C – Barrina gigante 2 C – Barrina grande C – blanco de Ibiza C – bombeta (Serra) C – Can Pino C – CS 3 C – des figueral C – El Masroig C – Ginestar C – mallorquin (modolets) C – Montan C – Pinxo de Barrina C – ramallet (Leo) C – Sant Llorens C – Segorbe C – Son Sardina C – Torreblanca C – Venus C – Villafranca C – Villagonzalo C – Villahermosa c- frances de urraca c- Mugro Carabajo Casas Altas Castielfiabib Cheste Cor de bou de Altura Corazon verde Cuarentena Damaso de Segorbe Extremeño de pezon Gigante de Alcora Gigante de Segorbe Iriepar La Mora Lucena Mamella Morado de Alcora Morado de Olba Muskiz Negro del Bierzo Negro manchego Pera de Olba Piñel gigante rojo Plenas Punta luze Erandio Rosa de Almazora Rosa de Ayerbe Rosa de Burriana Rosa de Castellon Rosa de Geldo Rosa de Hijar Rosa de Prudencia Tapa de puchero Tigre rosa (Leo) Valenciano chafau de Segorbe Valenciano de caratren Valenciano de la Nuria Valenciano de Ludiente Valenciano de Onda Valenciano de Ontinyent Valenciano de rambla de Altura Valenciano de Ramon de Segorbe Valenciano de Segorbe Valenciano gordo de Segorbe Valenciano rosa de Segorbe Verdal Verde doncella Vicente ton de Segorbe Xodos de enramar Yesa Zaragozano gordo

March 7, 2017	#265
Spartanburg123 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 1,262	Hey Gardeneer and Vader- the forecast for this weekend is calling for right at freezing for Sunday night. I was thinking of tilling up the soil this weekend, getting the peat moss and rabbit poo all mixed up in that, and letting the freeze kill a few bugs before planting. Do you think next week is safe? I haven't seen an extended forecast. Thanks! Darin

March 11, 2017	#270
Lindalana Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 857	Carolyn, thank you much for kind words and references! Truly appreciate! Gruntowy is from Robert Hoser, listed from Tania, 2012. Germinated really well. Yep, Perito Italian is from Dave Teney, glad to know it might be another winner in pastes- love growing a good one as I do lots of varied canning. Kukla Portuguese is RL beefsteak and is from Heritage, listed as from your seed source. It is third year repeat for me as I like it for being good reliable midseason red that so many people appreciate. Striped sweetheart dark is from Casey's, am so glad to know it is going to be good as I had to bump down some good cherries/saladette to grow this one. Thank you for finding, saving, preserving and sharing those treasures!