how do you name handed down seeds for or from unknown generations - Page 2

**tomatoaddict** · August 21, 2009

Thanks for the correction Ami...I never noticed the "L" in there.

dice · August 22, 2009

I wondered if "Guildo" was just a misreading of someone's
water-dribbled handwriting on a seed packet or similar,
and if the man's name was actually "Guido Pietroboni",
but a WWW search found no records under that name.

There is a place in France with Guildo as part of the name:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Cast-le-Guildo

The only person I found with the name Guildo is Guildo Horn,
a German stage performer, and it is a made-up stage name:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guildo_Horn

(So, Google was not helpful here in guessing whether Guildo
or Guido would be correct for this variety.)

amideutch · August 22, 2009

I think we need to put this Guido thing to rest. Here is a what Grunt had to say about Guildo Pietroboni which he is growing side by side with Guido.

by GRUNT on Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:08 am

"Well, they aren't three pounders (yet), and they definitely are not Guido's. Here are three photos of a 24.5 oz Guildo Petroboni, and one of a 17.5 oz Guido. I will get a photo of the plants shortly. It is even more vigorous than Guido, and about 25% larger so far."

And here is what Grunt had to say about Guildo and taste overall.

"Guildo is meaty enough to use as a paste, peels very easily, so would make a good canner, and tasty enough that there is nothing left of the total of 2 1/2 lbs that was prepared for a supper for four. Slightly sweet, tomatoey, and full flavored.
The Guido dies tomorrow."

travis · August 22, 2009

Guido: Italian name derived from Medieval Latin "Wido" meaning "wide."

Giulo: Italian form of Roman Latin "Julius" meaning "descended from Jupiter (or Jove)."

No "Guildo" found in the list of Italian male names I searched. In fact, no meaning found for the name "Guildo" anywhere. However, I did find where Giuldo de' Medici gave Machiavelli a job at the University of Florence in 1420, writing a history of Florence, which I found curious since Machiavelli was born in 1469.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...l_thinker.html

**tomatoaddict** · August 22, 2009

I'll see if I can find a number for Ferp Necciai in Scottsdale Pa and ask???? I know how we can all be sticklers for total correctness on the names. In the meantime, Here's a pic of the huge one I picked today. 2.15.5 Lbs. Saving seeds from this one.

**tomatoaddict** · August 22, 2009

I just did a phone search and I think we're all wrong. I think the name is Gildo. I'm going to do a little more checking. I'm guessing the Ferp man didn't know how to spell it and being Italian threw a U in there.

travis · August 22, 2009

Well, there is an Italian male name Gildo derived from a Visigoth king, Ermenegildo, and the name means basically "something of great value" with "ermin" = great + "gildo" = thing of consistency or value, and usually referring to the Celebration of the Sacraments.

dice · August 22, 2009

A suggestion: we drop the Guildo/Guido/Giulo/Gildo and just call
the cultivar "Pietroboni".

mjc · August 22, 2009

Or if you have to have something, how about "G. Pietroboni"?

There was a Gildo Pietroboni, from Monongahela, PA who died prior to 1998, as in the obituary for his sister (who died in 1998) he is listed as deceased. In that obituary, there are three other brothers lists...Martin, in New Eagle, John and Raymond in Monongahela. Two sisters were also listed. One in New Eagle and one in Monongahela.

Pietroboni seems to be a fairly common family name in/around Monongahela, PA.

retiree · September 17, 2009

Just got off the phone with Ferp.

He says that this tomato is approx. 3 lbs and a red Oxheart. An amazing tomato.

When he said that the tomato was like a paste tomato he didn't mean that it grew out differently from what was expected, he meant that it was very meaty and good for making sauce.
It originated with Guildo Petriboni who is deceased and Guildo brought it from Italy.

I'm growing this one next year for sure.

Neil G. (Canada)

August 21, 2009	#16
tomatoaddict Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: zone 5 Posts: 1,459	Thanks for the correction Ami...I never noticed the "L" in there. __________________ Secretseedcartel.com

August 22, 2009	#17
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	I wondered if "Guildo" was just a misreading of someone's water-dribbled handwriting on a seed packet or similar, and if the man's name was actually "Guido Pietroboni", but a WWW search found no records under that name. There is a place in France with Guildo as part of the name: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Cast-le-Guildo The only person I found with the name Guildo is Guildo Horn, a German stage performer, and it is a made-up stage name: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guildo_Horn (So, Google was not helpful here in guessing whether Guildo or Guido would be correct for this variety.) __________________ -- alias

August 22, 2009	#18
amideutch Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany 49°26"N 07°36"E Posts: 5,041	I think we need to put this Guido thing to rest. Here is a what Grunt had to say about Guildo Pietroboni which he is growing side by side with Guido. by GRUNT on Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:08 am "Well, they aren't three pounders (yet), and they definitely are not Guido's. Here are three photos of a 24.5 oz Guildo Petroboni, and one of a 17.5 oz Guido. I will get a photo of the plants shortly. It is even more vigorous than Guido, and about 25% larger so far." And here is what Grunt had to say about Guildo and taste overall. "Guildo is meaty enough to use as a paste, peels very easily, so would make a good canner, and tasty enough that there is nothing left of the total of 2 1/2 lbs that was prepared for a supper for four. Slightly sweet, tomatoey, and full flavored. The Guido dies tomorrow." __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘...Holy Crap .....What a ride!'

August 22, 2009	#21
tomatoaddict Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: zone 5 Posts: 1,459	I just did a phone search and I think we're all wrong. I think the name is Gildo. I'm going to do a little more checking. I'm guessing the Ferp man didn't know how to spell it and being Italian threw a U in there. __________________ Secretseedcartel.com

August 22, 2009	#23
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	A suggestion: we drop the Guildo/Guido/Giulo/Gildo and just call the cultivar "Pietroboni". __________________ -- alias

August 22, 2009	#19
travis Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 2,984	Guido: Italian name derived from Medieval Latin "Wido" meaning "wide." Giulo: Italian form of Roman Latin "Julius" meaning "descended from Jupiter (or Jove)." No "Guildo" found in the list of Italian male names I searched. In fact, no meaning found for the name "Guildo" anywhere. However, I did find where Giuldo de' Medici gave Machiavelli a job at the University of Florence in 1420, writing a history of Florence, which I found curious since Machiavelli was born in 1469. http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...l_thinker.html

August 22, 2009	#24
mjc Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: WV Posts: 603	Or if you *have* to have something, how about "G. Pietroboni"? There was a Gildo Pietroboni, from Monongahela, PA who died prior to 1998, as in the obituary for his sister (who died in 1998) he is listed as deceased. In that obituary, there are three other brothers lists...Martin, in New Eagle, John and Raymond in Monongahela. Two sisters were also listed. One in New Eagle and one in Monongahela. Pietroboni seems to be a fairly common family name in/around Monongahela, PA.

September 17, 2009	#25
retiree Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 404	Guildo Pietroboni Just got off the phone with Ferp. He says that this tomato is approx. 3 lbs and a red Oxheart. An amazing tomato. When he said that the tomato was like a paste tomato he didn't mean that it grew out differently from what was expected, he meant that it was very meaty and good for making sauce. It originated with Guildo Petriboni who is deceased and Guildo brought it from Italy. I'm growing this one next year for sure. Neil G. (Canada)