Black Prince - Page 2

Tomstrees · May 14, 2009

here in order are:

Black from Tula - - - - Black Prince - - - - - Nyagous

here is a slicer of my Black Prince :

Mine were globes (not perfect globes) but globes

~ Tom

Moonglow · May 14, 2009

I better start Black From Tula and Nyagous seeds.

newatthiskat · May 14, 2009

I am drooling. Thanks Alot!!!!

Kat

Tomstrees · May 15, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonglow

I better start Black From Tula and Nyagous seeds.

our FAVORITE black tomato
(out of many sampled "black" varieties) is Black from Tula

It's just outstanding -

Nyagous can not hold a match to BFT - I'd just add more BFT plants, lol

My only challenge with BFT?
I can only get a half season out of it because of its poor disease tolerance;
one needs to take advantage of the yield when its going "strong":

~ Tom

ps. Kat: me too ! lol

Andrey_BY · May 15, 2009

Tomstrees,

I see blackish-red globe BP fruits on your pictures, but the real BP fruits should be purple-black and more flattend globes. I know about this blackish-red version of BP which is also circulated in CIS. So somebody should think about a new name for it...

Tomstrees · May 15, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrey_BY

Tomstrees,

I see blackish-red globe BP fruits on your pictures, but the real BP fruits should be purple-black and more flattend globes.

hmmmm - what tangled tomato webs we weave ! So I have an impostor!

Thanks Andrey -

~ Tom

dice · May 16, 2009

Quote:

So I have an impostor!

I grew that one, too (mine looked like Tom's picture).
Maybe the real one is more blight-tolerant.

beck3465 · May 16, 2009

Black from Tula is my favorite also. Have four coming on strong but none are ripe yet. I have two Paul Robeson which are looking really good. Loaded with fruit and large healthy plants. These haven't ripened yet either. How do they compare in taste to BFT???
Becky

velikipop · May 17, 2009

I have grown both and prefer Paul Robeson for taste. Under my growing conditions Black fro Tula was a great producer but I found it a bit watery and weak in taste. PR produced superb tasting tomates but very few.

Alex

Thawley · May 17, 2009

I've grown Black Prince 2 of the last 3 seasons and have been very happy with it. Large, prolific growing plants. Consistent 6-8oz fruit. Abundant producer.

I had one plant in 07 and saved some seed. Two plants this year came from that. The original plant was from Laurel at heirloomtomatoplants. She's a big Gary Ibson/tomatofest fanboi, so her seed may have come thru him. (If that clue is helpful to you detective types...)

I'm a total noob and don't have near the experience to compare it to all the other blacks people speak of. Starting out, it's been encouraging enough to get predictable results and lots of tomatoes. But I'm looking forward to trying Black from Tula and Paul Robeson in coming seasons...

Tomstrees · May 18, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by dice

I grew that one, too (mine looked like Tom's picture).
Maybe the real one is more blight-tolerant.

that's what mine fell victim too -

Tom

Tomstrees · May 18, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by beck3465

Black from Tula is my favorite also. Have four coming on strong but none are ripe yet. I have two Paul Robeson which are looking really good. Loaded with fruit and large healthy plants. These haven't ripened yet either. How do they compare in taste to BFT???
Becky

I need to try PR

Tomstrees · May 18, 2009

does anyone have a pic of the "real deal Black Prince" ???

~ Tom

sirtanon · May 18, 2009

Mine was also exactly like the one in Tom's pic. got two plants growing right now.

**carolyn137** · May 18, 2009

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...&gbv=2&aq=f&oq=

In the above Google image pictures I'd go with the southern exposure picture ( oblate/flattened globes) as well as the tradewind one and note the fruit size variability that has been mentioned before with the latter.

Last night I spent a lot of time reviewing the listings that SSE members had for this variety and it's clear that both forms of it are in circulation.

May 14, 2009	#16
Tomstrees Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NJ Bayshore Posts: 3,848	here in order are: Black from Tula - - - - Black Prince - - - - - Nyagous here is a slicer of my Black Prince : Mine were globes (not perfect globes) but globes ~ Tom __________________ My green thumb came only as a result of the mistakes I made while learning to see things from the plant's point of view. ~ H. Fred Ale

May 14, 2009	#17
Moonglow Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Corte Madera, CA - Sunset Zone 16 Posts: 356	I better start Black From Tula and Nyagous seeds. __________________ Moonglow Gardens Sustainable Gardening One Planter at a Time Sunset Zone 17 Apparently - - - Without the fog!

May 14, 2009	#18
newatthiskat Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: texas Posts: 1,451	reply I am drooling. Thanks Alot!!!! Kat

May 15, 2009	#20
Andrey_BY Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Minsk, Belarus, Eastern Europe (Zone 4a) Posts: 2,278	Tomstrees, I see blackish-red globe BP fruits on your pictures, but the real BP fruits should be purple-black and more flattend globes. I know about this blackish-red version of BP which is also circulated in CIS. So somebody should think about a new name for it... __________________ 1 kg=2.2 lb , 1 m=39,37 in , 1 oz=28.35 g , 1 ft=30.48 cm , 1 lb= 0,4536 kg , 1 in=2.54 cm , 1 l = 0.26 gallon , 0 C=32 F Andrey a.k.a. TOMATODOR

May 17, 2009	#24
velikipop Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Langley, BC Posts: 768	I have grown both and prefer Paul Robeson for taste. Under my growing conditions Black fro Tula was a great producer but I found it a bit watery and weak in taste. PR produced superb tasting tomates but very few. Alex __________________ I'll plant and I'll harvest what the earth brings forth The hammer's on the table, the pitchfork's on the shelf Bob Dylan

May 16, 2009	#23
beck3465 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Crystal Beach, Texas Posts: 89	Black from Tula is my favorite also. Have four coming on strong but none are ripe yet. I have two Paul Robeson which are looking really good. Loaded with fruit and large healthy plants. These haven't ripened yet either. How do they compare in taste to BFT??? Becky

May 17, 2009	#25
Thawley Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: SoCal - Zone 10 Posts: 106	I've grown Black Prince 2 of the last 3 seasons and have been very happy with it. Large, prolific growing plants. Consistent 6-8oz fruit. Abundant producer. I had one plant in 07 and saved some seed. Two plants this year came from that. The original plant was from Laurel at heirloomtomatoplants. She's a big Gary Ibson/tomatofest fanboi, so her seed may have come thru him. (If that clue is helpful to you detective types...) I'm a total noob and don't have near the experience to compare it to all the other blacks people speak of. Starting out, it's been encouraging enough to get predictable results and lots of tomatoes. But I'm looking forward to trying Black from Tula and Paul Robeson in coming seasons...

May 18, 2009	#28
Tomstrees Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NJ Bayshore Posts: 3,848	does anyone have a pic of the "real deal Black Prince" ??? ~ Tom __________________ My green thumb came only as a result of the mistakes I made while learning to see things from the plant's point of view. ~ H. Fred Ale

May 18, 2009	#29
sirtanon Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ (zone 9b) Posts: 796	Mine was also exactly like the one in Tom's pic. got two plants growing right now. __________________ I could sail by on the winds of silence, and maybe they won't notice... but this time I think it would be better if I swim..

May 18, 2009	#30
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...&gbv=2&aq=f&oq= In the above Google image pictures I'd go with the southern exposure picture ( oblate/flattened globes) as well as the tradewind one and note the fruit size variability that has been mentioned before with the latter. Last night I spent a lot of time reviewing the listings that SSE members had for this variety and it's clear that both forms of it are in circulation. __________________ Carolyn