Looking for Best Flavored Hybrids - Page 2

AKmark · February 3, 2017

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Originally Posted by BigVanVader

Have you tried New Girl? I have some waiting to sprout right now.

I did grow a couple New Girl last year, they were pretty good, I will try it again this year. I also have grown Summer Girl, they have been decent to pretty good. I am not sure yet why the taste has been variable.

Black Krim · February 3, 2017

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Originally Posted by AKmark

Early Girl is the most popular hybrid in AK, it tastes good and is a production machine.
Big Beef has been popular for years too, good production, decent taste.
Momotaro tastes great, fair production
Brandy Boy tastes great, very good taste, good production in the right hands.
Trust taste pretty good, great production.
Tomimaru muchoo has a good taste, grown by some market gardeners up here in AK
Garden Treasure taste good, produces good
I have grown many hybrids for 25 years, these are the better ones I have tried.

FUnny, I didnt expect Early Girl to taste better than BB. You know, early means BLAHH.

Garden Treasure was on my list but didnt find much support for keeping it on the list-- will put it back on.

Black Krim · February 3, 2017

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Originally Posted by AlittleSalt

I haven't tried a lot of hybrids, but these taste good to us:

Early Girl
Sungold
Big Beef
Sweet 100
Supersweet Cherry 100
Momotaro
Celebrity

Have you tried the other gold / yellow cherry tomato that Tomato Growers sells??? Im asking because it is supposed to be crack resistant.

Black Krim · February 3, 2017

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Originally Posted by heirloomtomaguy

I usually only grow hybrid cherry tomatoes. Here's my list

Esterina F1
SunGold F1
Orange Paruche F1
Toronjina F1
As well as others i am drawing a blank on

Johnnys Seed has replaced White Cherry with Esterina.

AKmark · February 3, 2017

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Originally Posted by Black Krim

FUnny, I didnt expect Early Girl to taste better than BB. You know, early means BLAHH.

Garden Treasure was on my list but didnt find much support for keeping it on the list-- will put it back on.

Early Girl can be good to superb, BB can be ho-hum to good. I used to grow these year after year, for many years. I liked BB because it was a larger tomato that was better than Better Boy, Big Boy, Fantastic, Super Fantastic, several others in the category taste-wise,. EG is probably the most popular home gardener GH variety in AK. Others, elsewhere, may disagree though.

heirloomtomaguy · February 3, 2017

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Originally Posted by Black Krim

Johnnys Seed has replaced White Cherry with Esterina.

Trust me they made a good decision

AKmark · February 3, 2017

Read the claim at the bottom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Girl

Black Krim · February 4, 2017

Are u referring to the improved flavor in dry growing methods?

Noted it is now owned by Monsanto and someone is working on dehybridizing it.

Gerardo · February 4, 2017

One of the best hybrid tomatoes I've ever tried was a "dry farmed" Odoriko. It concentrates flavor like you wouldn't believe.

Black Krim · February 4, 2017

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Originally Posted by Gerardo

One of the best hybrids tomatoes I've ever tried was a "dry farmed" Odoriko. It concentrates flavor like you wouldn't believe.

is this also called kumato?

I have one plot of land with little water, did I say littlle, the red currants did ok. I need to better understand dry farming method.

AKmark · February 4, 2017

Black Krim, I crossed a PL Black Krim with a PL Early Girl, and they are awesome, I will send out some this fall.
I have been wanting to try Odoriko, I hear they are good.

BigVanVader · February 4, 2017

I toyed with dry farming last year and made some interesting observations. I did a few (Taxi & Siccagno di Valledolmo) and there were very noticeable differences in the DF vs Reg watering.

DF Taxi struggled after it got hot and started aborting flowers, smaller fruits but a decent improvement in flavor with some being incredible. The other Taxis produced about 2x the tomatoes but the flavor was much more bland.

The reg and dry farmed SDV continued to set and there was no significant decrease in production. Neither had BER, and the fruits were so dry they felt like marshmallows in hand. Shelf life was extreme but for me the taste was to strong for fresh eating, skins were very thick as well.

When I finally pulled them up the roots were huge and more developed that typical. It was actually tough to pull them out. The reg ones were really similar to the DF other than the root systems and ofc the tast. It seems the history behind SDV is legit.

I feel like this is something you could select for to improve on over time and I plan to dry farm some more this season (my favs) to compare taste/production.

Gerardo · February 5, 2017

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Originally Posted by Black Krim

is this also called kumato?

I have one plot of land with little water, did I say littlle, the red currants did ok. I need to better understand dry farming method.

kumato is a different tomato. Odoriko is from kitazawa seed company.

Black Krim · February 5, 2017

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Originally Posted by AKmark

Black Krim, I crossed a PL Black Krim with a PL Early Girl, and they are awesome, I will send out some this fall.
I have been wanting to try Odoriko, I hear they are good.

Mark, I bought Kumato at the grocery store as I was intrigued by the brown color. I'm an adventurous eater, so the color did nt put me off. They ripened over a period of time and the flavor did alter over that time. A different eating experience for each tomato (pkg of 4). Im still too inexperienced to put labels on the flavor experience.

The BK x EG should be a nice improvement over the BK.

Black Krim · February 5, 2017

BVV, Wow, interesting observations. Not always a better flavor results with the dry method.

I have a greater appreciation for the controlled climate growing conditions that provide a marketable fruit producers can count on.

February 4, 2017	#24
Gerardo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Diego-Tijuana Posts: 2,598	One of the best hybrid tomatoes I've ever tried was a "dry farmed" Odoriko. It concentrates flavor like you wouldn't believe. Last edited by Gerardo; February 5, 2017 at 12:12 AM.

February 3, 2017	#22
AKmark Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Wasilla Alaska Posts: 2,010	Read the claim at the bottom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Girl

February 4, 2017	#23
Black Krim Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: New England Posts: 661	Are u referring to the improved flavor in dry growing methods? Noted it is now owned by Monsanto and someone is working on dehybridizing it.

February 4, 2017	#27
BigVanVader Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Greenville, South Carolina Posts: 3,099	I toyed with dry farming last year and made some interesting observations. I did a few (Taxi & Siccagno di Valledolmo) and there were very noticeable differences in the DF vs Reg watering. DF Taxi struggled after it got hot and started aborting flowers, smaller fruits but a decent improvement in flavor with some being incredible. The other Taxis produced about 2x the tomatoes but the flavor was much more bland. The reg and dry farmed SDV continued to set and there was no significant decrease in production. Neither had BER, and the fruits were so dry they felt like marshmallows in hand. Shelf life was extreme but for me the taste was to strong for fresh eating, skins were very thick as well. When I finally pulled them up the roots were huge and more developed that typical. It was actually tough to pull them out. The reg ones were really similar to the DF other than the root systems and ofc the tast. It seems the history behind SDV is legit. I feel like this is something you could select for to improve on over time and I plan to dry farm some more this season (my favs) to compare taste/production.

February 5, 2017	#30
Black Krim Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: New England Posts: 661	BVV, Wow, interesting observations. Not always a better flavor results with the dry method. I have a greater appreciation for the controlled climate growing conditions that provide a marketable fruit producers can count on.