General information and discussion about cultivating melons, cucumbers, squash, pumpkins and gourds.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2010
Location: upstate SC
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Scott,
Other than removing some weeds and checking the plants, the cover stayed on the squash & zucchini plants until they began to bloom. They were in a small hoop house (maybe 5X10?) that we built using 10' sections of pvc pipe. As soon as the plants popped through the ground, there were cucumber beetles walking around on the cover. Then, the squash bugs arrived and joined the cucumber beetles. Some managed to get in and lay eggs before I removed the cover for the honeybees. The SVB didn't bother them until I took the cover off. Mason bees might work in an enclosed area and fertilize the plants without raising the cover. I think I could have managed the squash bugs, but the borer always gets to the squash just as they begin to bear. I will wrap the stems with aluminum foil and with stockings and hope for a good crop. What will the neighbors think? ![]() Good luck! |
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#17 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Nothing works here against them (i've tried spraying the stems with everything, I even wondered if pruning seal would work. It does, but you wont get any squash either. heh.)
I keep hoping Seminis will release a GMO Bt squash. *runs for cover* |
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#18 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2010
Location: upstate SC
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Chris,
I have used a hypodermic filled with Bt liquid and injected the stems after the SVB damaged the stem. No, it didn't save the plant, but maybe I was too late. Maybe I need to be vaccinating them with Bt before the borer finds them? Beginning to feel a little like Bill Murray in Caddyshack just thinking about squash bugs and squash vine borers...... ![]() |
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#19 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: MA
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I use aluminum foil, flashy side up, every year. No SVB the past two years.
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#20 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 2,593
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Torm, how exactly do you apply it? for example, do you wrap it around the stem? How far up the stem?
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#21 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Alabama 7.5 or 8 depends on who you ask
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#22 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: MA
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I start with a roughly 12" x 12" square of aluminum foil. Then make a cut from the midpoint of one side to the center of the square. Open the cut wide enough for the squash stem. Move the square so the stem is in the center of the square. Overlap the aluminum foil so there is no cut showing. I usually go 2" or more up the stem from ground level.
Tormato Last edited by Tormato; March 27, 2012 at 01:15 PM. |
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#23 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2010
Location: upstate SC
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Tormato, thanks for posting! I can see that the way you wrapped the plants will keep the plant covered as the stem grows. The pieces of foil that I tried were not large enough. Can't wait to give this a go....:-)
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#24 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Alabama 7.5 or 8 depends on who you ask
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Thanks Tormato for the walk through
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#25 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Whidbey Island, WA Zone 7, Sunset 5
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I'm really looking forward to updates on this!
I used to use foil, too, but it didn't stay on. I guess that I didn't use nearly enough. I'd bet that the stockings would have helped keep it in place. Great going, tormato! |
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#26 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
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Thanks, Tormato. Do you mean to say you cover 2 inches or two feet of the stem from the ground level?
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#27 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: MA
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Two inches up the stem.
Also, some soil over the outer edges of the foil at ground level can help it stay grounded in windy conditions. Tormato |
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#28 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
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Two INCHES up the stem protects the vine from SVBs? Can that be right?
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#29 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: MA
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Scott,
2 inches, or a little more. I don't think I've ever gone more than three inches. SVB mostly like to start their attack near ground level, if I can believe what I've read. It's the reflective nature of the aluminum foil that is supposed to repel them more than the physical barrier, again from what I've read. The one thing I do know, I've had no SVB in mostly sunny growing seasons, and have had SVB in very cloudy growing seasons, while using the aluminum foil method. Tormato |
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#30 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Alabama
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The vine borers here will hit the plant stem as far up as necessary to get in the plant. I have had them get in the stem as far as 3 ft up and have had stems with multiple borers attacking them. Squash plants get fairly large in my garden some years if the borers are late arriving. Putting the foil on the first few inches might delay them for a little while but not for very long down here. The only way to delay them for any length of time is to regularly spray the stems with Sevin and again after every rain or watering. Even doing this will only delay the inevitable; but by then I am usually a little tired of squash.
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