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Old December 30, 2013   #16
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So far I only have seeds for two varieties - a white seeded Super Marconi which I grew last year and it did much better than the black seeded variety I had grown the two previous years; and, as it was highly recommended by several people here, I also purchased seeds for Provider.
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Old December 30, 2013   #17
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... How do Pole beans produce?
If in the right culture, they can be shy or prolific, depending on the variety.
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Old December 30, 2013   #18
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Hey Linda! So that must be it, I need more plants! :-) The thing is I'm gardening in a small urban plot and I need to prioritize, based on yield and taste for the most value in return. Last year I did just tomatoes and cucumbers and that was GREAT. I'm adding a ton of peppers, a couple of eggplants to this year's garden but I don't know what else.
How do Pole beans produce?

Purple Peacock Pole beans produced like crazy and we couldn't keep up with them! I think 6 plants would have been more than enough for us. Since hubby erected a structure for the indeterminate tomatoes, I decided to grow the pole beans in between the tomatoes so that they could share the posts. Since a picture is worth a thousand words, I will include a couple. I grew two rows of tomatoes, and tucked in two bean plants on each upright (sown directly into the soil). I strung the tomatoes up, greenhouse style and added some extra strings for the beans which then proceeded along the horizontals.

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Old December 30, 2013   #19
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Linda, do you have an end of season picture? If I am understanding correctly, you have your tomato plants approx. say ??-inches on-center and in the middle of that gap, you planted the beans? Pole beans are vining right? and with the lush indeterminate tomato leaves, don't the two get quite tangled togethor?
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I don't have a good picture of the beans and tomatoes, just two of the jungle! The tomatoes are planted about 6" forward of the structure and the beans are planted right up against the uprights so there is plenty of room (at the soil level at least!) My beans aren't particularly self-winding so I have to assist them. For that reason, they don't really get tangled with the tomatoes.

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Linda, do you have an end of season picture? If I am understanding correctly, you have your tomato plants approx. say ??-inches on-center and in the middle of that gap, you planted the beans? Pole beans are vining right? and with the lush indeterminate tomato leaves, don't the two get quite tangled togethor?
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Old December 30, 2013   #21
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2014 beans?
Flamingo - hopefully from Tormato's swap
Red Noodle Beans - have been growing 5+ years and are very prolific
Dragon's Tongue
Yellow Wax - husband's favorite
Royal Burgundy - have seeds, but do I have the space?
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Red Noodle Beans - have been growing 5+ years and are very prolific
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Thanks, might have to try those!
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Old February 26, 2014   #23
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Hmm, I've thought long and hard about my beans for this year. I pretty much knew which tomatoes I wanted to grow last summer but for some reason, the beans have been more of a challenge. I'm going to divide my total bean space into four equal areas and I will plant:

1. Helda
2. Emerite
3. Neckargold
4. Willow Leaf Lima

Can't wait to get started on this season!
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Old February 26, 2014   #24
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Maybe some Provider for earlies; definitely Rattlesnake, Emerite and Fortex will be back again for another trial. Wanted Selma Zesta, too, but they sold out before I got my order in.

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Old February 27, 2014   #25
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luigiwu, I had the same experience with Dragon Tongue and I had around a dozen of plants. Like you described – tough and not very productive. No more bush beans for me.

This year, I am planting:

Cherokee Trail of Tears
Rattlesnake
Kentucky Blue
Kentucky Wonder Wax
Moonlight

and maybe, one or two Purple Peacock - they are tasty, beautiful and producing like crazy, but I don't like much their color after cooking (muddy green).... so, for that reason, I will probably stick to the list above .
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Old February 27, 2014   #26
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I will only be planting Maxibel this year.

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Old February 27, 2014   #27
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I planted Dragon Tongue Bush beans late in the summer and it did not do well. Granted, it was not in the sunniest spot, the beans had a very thick skin to them and hardly gave me any pods(at most a HANDFUL?? even though I had 2 bushes/plants.)
2 bushes/plants is a very small quantity. I would expect to get about 30-40 pods max out of 2 plants. You can pack 15 plants into a 4 foot row that's about 15 inches wide and that would give a nice crop. I personally grow a 4x4 area and am inundated with beans. Also, don't forget to inoculate your beans with rhizomia (?). Otherwise they take off very slowly.

Very strange to hear the results re: tough beans. Maybe a bad batch of crossed seed? I picked mine when the beans just started to fill out and the pods were about 7 inches long. If you wait until the beans completely fill out, then Dragon Tongue is a shelling bean.


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Maybe some Provider for earlies; definitely Rattlesnake, Emerite and Fortex will be back again for another trial. Wanted Selma Zesta, too, but they sold out before I got my order in.

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I'll look to see how many Selma (Zelma) Zesta beans I have, tonight.
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Old March 25, 2014   #29
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The "maybe" list (bush & half-runner)...

Anasazi
Appaloosa
Arikara Yellow
Balong
Beurre de Rocquencourt
Black Nightfall
Black Turtle
Black Valentine
Blue Jay
Blue Lake 4274
Blue Ribbon
Bobis D'Albenga
Bountiful
Brittle Wax
Burgundy?
Bush Blue Lake 47
Bushmaster
Calypso
Cannellini
Carson
Cherokee Wax
Coco Bianco
Coco Noir
Concador
Contender
Contender?
Country Gentleman
Cranberry/Roman
Crockett
Dapple Gray
Dark Red Kidney
Demeter
Dragon Langerie
Drobna
Dwarf Borlotto
Earliserve
Early Bush Italian
Early Idaho
Empress
E-Z Pick
Fantastic Filet
Fin de Bagnol
Flageolet
French Filet
French Horticultural Long Pod
French Navy
Golden Wax
Golden Wax Improved
Gold Rush
Gourmet Green
Heavy Hitter
Heavyweight II
Hutterite
Indian Woman Yellow
Ireland Creek Annie
Jacob's Cattle
Jade
Jumbo
Kenearly Yellow Eye
Kentucky King
Kentucky Wonder Bush
Kitchen King
Landreth Stringless
Light Red Kidney
Lina Sisco's Bird Egg
Lynx
Masai
Maxi
Maxi?
Maxibel
Maxibel?
Mayacoba
Mellow Yellow
Merveille de Piemonte
Nano Cannellino
Nash
Nickel
N-T Half-Runner
October
Old Joe Clark
Painted Pony
Parchman/Lockwood Pinto
Peregion
Piros-Feher
Prince
Provider
Purple Queen
Red Calypso
Red Swan
Regal Salad?
Rojas de Seda
Roma II
Romano Bush
Romano Purpiat
Royal Burgundy
Sequoia
Shin Kintoki
Slenderette
Tavera
Taylor Cranberry
Tenderette
Tendergreen
Tendergreen Improved
Tenderpod
Thibodeau du Comte Buece
Tiger Eye
Tongue of Fire
Topaz Pinto
Top Crop
Top Notch Golden Wax
Triomphe de Farcy
Tsunetomi
Vittoria
White Half-Runner
White Marrowfat
Yellow Eye
Xera


My back is hurting just thinking about planting them.

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Old March 25, 2014   #30
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I just planted Blue Lake and Romanos. Plan to add pinkeye/purple hull, one teepee of red long beans and maybe a row of teparies.
I'm only doing bush beans, except maybe the teepee, because of our upcoming move. Already sold my cattle panels and t-posts that were making my garden look sort of ugly.
I hope that I will get at least a few beans before we move. I've tried to concentrate on really early maturing veggies this year, since I only have about 75 days until we move! My main motivation for planting anything is just to make my backyard look prettier for selling. I'm really hoping that somebody who appreciates the work I've done with the soil decides to buy. I would hate to see my gardens that I worked so hard to make torn out and replaced by an RV shed!
My back and joints are killing me from all the planting. I've also planted about 100 flowers, tropicals and other pretty plants!
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