Let's Build an Argentine Grill.

[Rockporter]

Originally Posted by Worth1

Mr Tode I cannot express to you how much I despise cooking on gas.

But please folks if you wish put in your ideas on what you would like in a grill.
Things such as height and so on.
Worth.

Sadly, gas is the only way to go for me. I can't breath with the smoke coming from the wood or coal and the food too.

[Gerardo]

not too much surface area, otherwise you Frodos will need a step stool to reach the back slabs of "vacío" and "bifé"

[Worth1]

Originally Posted by Rockporter

Sadly, gas is the only way to go for me. I can't breath with the smoke coming from the wood or coal and the food too.

I have yet to see a home gas grill that gets hot enough.

Not to say you cant make one.

Worth

[Father'sDaughter]

For easy height adjustment, you would need something like a lift table. Manual for us poor folk, electronic controlled for those who can afford the upcharge.

[Worth1]

Originally Posted by Gerardo

not too much surface area, otherwise you Frodos will need a step stool to reach the back slabs of "vacío" and "bifé"

One thing to consider is waste and standard lengths of metal supplies.
You cant keep those rules all of the time or it will limit you.

Angle iron for the most part comes in 20 foot lengths.
The factors for 20 are 2,4,5,10 not including numbers like 2.5 and so on.
For those that forgot math class like I did a factor is a number that can be divided evenly into another number.
I use factors all of the time when I design things to cut down on waste at work.

The average stove top is 24 inches you could make it 30 inches deep and still get 8 pieces, not including saw waste.

I think 24 to 30 inches deep and 3 to 4 feet wide is more than big enough?

Worth

[Worth1]

Originally Posted by Father'sDaughter

For easy height adjustment, you would need something like a lift table. Manual for us poor folk, electronic controlled for those who can afford the upcharge.

What do you mean by a lift table?

Worth

[Worth1]

I'm going to make this last post and go to the store for something before it gets to crowded.
While we are making this grill we will explore all sorts of wonderful things.
Stuff like helix angle the inclined plane and leverage and how we can take advantage of them.
There is one thing I have over most of the people that make BBQ grills.
I own a lathe and know how to use it.

Worth

[Father'sDaughter]

Originally Posted by Worth1

What do you mean by a lift table?

Worth

Something like this --

[Worth1]

Originally Posted by Father'sDaughter

Something like this --

It was a thought but I have a better idea that will serve two needs at one time.

Worth.

[Fusion_power]

I hate the junky small wheels on most grills. Can you build it such that the grill is on a trailer that can be towed behind a truck?

I looked through the designs in several pictures online. Have you picked an interior length for the grill? If not, may I suggest either 5 or 6 feet and include removable interior dividers so different heat can be applied according to needed cooking temperature.

While I like the overall design, if this grill is used outdoors, wind will be a problem. Will you incorporate some kind of shield or heat reflector?

When setting the fire bricks, suggest getting some stainless steel wool to use as a bed. Fire bricks direct on steel plate eventually break. The steel wool should cushion them a bit.

I presume it will be painted with high temperature paint.

[Worth1]

This guy makes a nice grill and other stuff, I have posted about him before.
http://www.azbbqgrills.com/page17/page3/page3.html

No way do I want to make a direct copy of his stuff.

The grill I would make would be for myself and wouldn't need it to be too big.

Worth

[Worth1]

I just did the numbers on the lower steel box alone at 3/16 inch thick plate.
This would be 2 feet wide one foot tall and 3 feet long.
Around 122.4 pounds or 55.5 kilograms.
3/16 steel plate is 7.65 pounds per square foot.
Worth

[oakley]

We have always wanted this set-up...
(just needs a rotisserie rod)

Fire Breathing duo...
http://texasovenco.com/argentinian-grill/

[Worth1]

The cover/lid on top is perplexing me and still have the grill adjustable.
In Coles pictuer the cables are on the inside this eliminates any way of doing it with cables.
The other company does it with the cables on the outside.
It will allow you to put a cover on it but the grill has to be down to do this.
You could have a slot for where the piece that connects the cable but it would have to be at a radius.
This too will eliminate the ability to move the grill up and down with the lid closed.

The only way to do what I want it to do is to make that grill go up and down from the bottom.
This can be done several ways.
Worth

[dmforcier]

You could go really machinist crazy and cut threads on the posts supporting the rack, with thread follower blocks on the rack. Then gear and worm at the top to drive the screws from the crank. Rod and second worm, or chain and sprockets to synchronize the screws.

I had a router table that was set up this way to raise and lower the heavy vertical table on which the router was mounted. It worked very well - nice and smooth.