Scarlet runner beans. - Page 2

Worth1 · January 23, 2016

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Originally Posted by Redbaron

Why not the Hyacinth Bean for you Worth? It is also an ornamental perennial, edible and vining. Very much like the scarlet runner, but it is a more tropical plant.

I think one of my friends grew that one year and it took up the whole fence I might look for it today.
What I would really like to have is grapes growing on the arbor.
And I need to dig up a Butterfly vine and move it.
Worth

Tracydr · January 23, 2016

I couldn't get them to set in AZ but they were quite pretty in the spring.
Now,hyacinth bean on the other hand,made itself into quite a native in my AZ yard. That is a much better bet for your climate.
I grew mine up the palm trees with some strings that I hung from up high with a ladder. Once they got close to the canopy they covered it. The whole thing was pretty amazing to look at.

Worth1 · January 23, 2016

Well I went to HD to see what the had and they didnt have anything but the confounded yard long beans.
I didn't get any I have some time to decide
What I did get was 4 grape root stocks like I said I wanted.

Black monukka.
Mars.
Thomson seedless.
Red Flame.

One of these has got to work.

Worth

Redbaron · January 23, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worth1

Well I went to HD to see what the had and they didnt have anything but the confounded yard long beans.
I didn't get any I have some time to decide
What I did get was 4 grape root stocks like I said I wanted.

Black monukka.
Mars.
Thomson seedless.
Red Flame.

One of these has got to work.

Worth

Not necessarily. I did that two years running and nothing survived.

Next time I am trying a scuppernog / muscadine

Tracydr · May 2, 2016

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Originally Posted by Worth1

Well I went to HD to see what the had and they didnt have anything but the confounded yard long beans.
I didn't get any I have some time to decide
What I did get was 4 grape root stocks like I said I wanted.

Black monukka.
Mars.
Thomson seedless.
Red Flame.

One of these has got to work.

Worth

I can send you some hyacinth beans if you like.

Worth1 · May 2, 2016

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Originally Posted by Tracydr

I can send you some hyacinth beans if you like.

Let me think about it and thank you for the offer.

Right now I am involved in a project.

joseph · January 23, 2016

I've been growing runner beans for 7 years. I've been able to get a crop from them the past 3 years. Last year the biggest crop ever. They don't set fruit well during hot weather. A bit at a time I'm selecting for a strain that can make seeds in hot weather. Mine grow to the top of 6 foot bean poles, and have plenty of vine left over.

January 23, 2016

Well, Worth, it sounds like you have been given many varieties to choose from!

Worth1 · January 23, 2016

I'm getting started on my front yard Teepee tomorrow.
I am going to take a chunk of wood and drill 4 compound angle holes at 30° and insert 10" joints of 3/4 rigid conduit.

Worth

Worth1 · January 23, 2016

I can't sit still for a minute I get an idea and I have to act on it.
Here is the test pyramid and how I did it.
I set my drill press table up on two 30 degree angles at the same time and made a miniature.

Worth
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4season · January 24, 2016

Just be cautious about eating uncooked scarlet runners or hyacinth beans. Raw they may contain somewhat toxic glucosides.

Worth1 · January 24, 2016

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Originally Posted by 4season

Just be cautious about eating uncooked scarlet runners or hyacinth beans. Raw they may contain somewhat toxic glucosides.

I wont be eating any poison beans raw.
All beans contain poison raw and I don't think many people know that.

Worth

Tormato · January 27, 2016

Dry hyacinth beans are said to have very high levels of cyanogenic glycocides. Some people stay clear of them, some people double boil them changing the water between boils, some people treat them as regular dry beans, etc...

I'd say it's best to really read up on them, if you're going to try them.

Zeedman · January 28, 2016

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Originally Posted by 4season

Just be cautious about eating uncooked scarlet runners or hyacinth beans. Raw they may contain somewhat toxic glucosides.

The snaps from runner beans are no more toxic raw than those of common snap beans... or I wouldn't be here to post this.

I eat a lot of snaps raw as I harvest, provided that the seeds inside are undeveloped (Fortex is really good raw). It is the developed seeds that contain the greatest concentration of toxins, and for beans of the genus Phaseolus (common beans, runner beans, and limas) those toxins are destroyed by cooking. I would second Tormato's caution about eating mature hyacinth beans, though. The same caution would apply to eating jack beans or sword beans.

Keen101 · March 9, 2016

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Originally Posted by Zeedman

The snaps from runner beans are no more toxic raw than those of common snap beans... or I wouldn't be here to post this.

I eat a lot of snaps raw as I harvest, provided that the seeds inside are undeveloped (Fortex is really good raw). It is the developed seeds that contain the greatest concentration of toxins, and for beans of the genus Phaseolus (common beans, runner beans, and limas) those toxins are destroyed by cooking. I would second Tormato's caution about eating mature hyacinth beans, though. The same caution would apply to eating jack beans or sword beans.

agreed. eating green unmature pole beans is great. I dont eat the pods. Runner beans can be eaten the same, but their pods are even more tough and fuzzy, but since i don't eat the pods anyway it's all good. Once the beans mature and dry down is when you should pay more attention to chemicals that they produce.

January 23, 2016	#2
Tracydr Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2011 Location: Laurinburg, North Carolina, zone 7 Posts: 3,207	I couldn't get them to set in AZ but they were quite pretty in the spring. Now,hyacinth bean on the other hand,made itself into quite a native in my AZ yard. That is a much better bet for your climate. I grew mine up the palm trees with some strings that I hung from up high with a ladder. Once they got close to the canopy they covered it. The whole thing was pretty amazing to look at.

January 23, 2016	#3
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Well I went to HD to see what the had and they didnt have anything but the confounded yard long beans. I didn't get any I have some time to decide What I did get was 4 grape root stocks like I said I wanted. Black monukka. Mars. Thomson seedless. Red Flame. One of these has got to work. Worth

January 23, 2016	#7
joseph Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: Cache Valley, N/E of The Great Salt Lake Posts: 1,244	I've been growing runner beans for 7 years. I've been able to get a crop from them the past 3 years. Last year the biggest crop ever. They don't set fruit well during hot weather. A bit at a time I'm selecting for a strain that can make seeds in hot weather. Mine grow to the top of 6 foot bean poles, and have plenty of vine left over.

January 23, 2016	#8
JoParrott Guest Posts: n/a	Well, Worth, it sounds like you have been given many varieties to choose from!

January 24, 2016	#11
4season Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: albuquerque Posts: 308	Just be cautious about eating uncooked scarlet runners or hyacinth beans. Raw they may contain somewhat toxic glucosides.

January 27, 2016	#13
Tormato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA Posts: 4,968	Dry hyacinth beans are said to have very high levels of cyanogenic glycocides. Some people stay clear of them, some people double boil them changing the water between boils, some people treat them as regular dry beans, etc... I'd say it's best to really read up on them, if you're going to try them.