Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Indiana
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Someone here kindly sent me some Start F1 seeds to try this year, but do you know of a commercial source in the E.U. that carries these and ships to U.S.?
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Ústí nad Labem in the north of the Czech Republic
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I assume the regulations between the EU and the USA are sort of reciprocal, so I doubt anyone is authorized to do so. However, I am not really sure of that as I have never needed this service. I'll ask around and let you know. Milan HP Last edited by Milan HP; December 31, 2020 at 05:56 AM. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Norway
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I grew it a while ago, but my only note is "not impressed". I still haven't found a hybrid variety that compares favorably to heirlooms. That said, disease hasn't been a big problem here. Steve |
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#19 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Indiana
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Thanks, Steve -- that is exactly the source information I was seeking. I will contact them to find out if they ship to the U.S. Or, perhaps they can suggest another source that does. I haven't grown it, yet, but hopefully it will compare favorably with Early Girl or Fourth of July as an early variety -- mainly for salads at that point in the season. BTW, do you grow heirlooms outside or in a greenhouse of some type?
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#20 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Ústí nad Labem in the north of the Czech Republic
Posts: 332
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Hello Steve in beautiful Norway,
I am not surprised that your note was "not impressed" after tasting them. Start F1 isn't really a heat-lover, but it was cultivated for warmer climates than yours. This year, sorry, last year, they didn't come out as usual even here, as the summer was rather cold and we got an unusual amount of rain. They aren't excellent if grown in a greenhouse either. To get the best of them you need a lot of sunshine, not too much water and not too much fertilizer. On the other hand, they can suffer from BER if the heat is extreme. I keep telling people that assessing a variety without mentioning the conditions may be misleading. When I grow an unknown variety I always have two plants and often in two different places but in the same garden (my garden is on a slope, dissected with stone walls - a typical garden in the hills 570 meters a.m.s.l.) and sometimes I wouldn't even say that the fruits are the same variety. And they are only 30 meters apart. Milan HP |
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#21 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Norway
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Milan, I don't doubt that Start F1 can be excellent under ideal conditions.
I had a number of varieties that did very well outside and tasted great in 2016, which was the year I grew Start F1 (outside), including Sakharnyi Pudovichok, George Detsikas Italian Red, and Fish Lake Oxheart, so conditions weren't bad. My favorite "outdoor variety" now is EM-Champion, which hasn't failed to produce lots of great tasting fruit in three years, including one summer which was exceptionally hot and last summer which was very cool. It's also earlier than Start F1. Steve |
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#22 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Ústí nad Labem in the north of the Czech Republic
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Hello Steve,
I may have sounded a bit offended, but I am not, believe me. It isn't obligatory to love Start S F1. But I do. ![]() Milan HP |
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#23 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Ontario
Posts: 3,893
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Too funny Milan HP
![]() ![]() I have to say that I will be growing EM Champion again this year. Taste was SO good that it will receive a cherished spot in the tomato cage row of 6 plants ![]() Linda |
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#24 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Ústí nad Labem in the north of the Czech Republic
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Hello Linda,
I've heard so much about EM Champion here that I really feel it's my DUTY to try it. I am afraid my schedule for this year is totally full, sort of brimming over. It will have to wait till 2022. ![]() Milan HP |
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#25 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Calgary, Alberta Canada
Posts: 94
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If I can get Krasnyi Krupnyi to duplicate the taste it had in 2020, it was the find of the year. I also had an EM Champion bee cross with Volvosko Scre Val, a hardy and more slim plant that also sets fruit well. Looking forward to that.
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#26 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Southeast Kansas
Posts: 878
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For the first time ever there's a cherry on my list!
Santiam Sunrise - orange cherry, sweet and tangy and oh so good Raspberry Mochi - dark salad tomato, just delectable plus it sets well in the heat Texwine - great tasting beefsteak that sets reliably in my heat and humidity |
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#27 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Czech republic
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In another thread here at Tomatoville, I offered Start F1 seeds. I also wrote something about how I like it and how popular it is in the Czech Republic. By no means did I want to write that it is the best tomato in the world. My ambition was just to acquaint members in the USA and Canada with this interesting tomato. We each have our favorite tomato which is the most delicious for us and grows well with us. I've been on Tomatoville long enough to know. Of course, I'm not just expecting positive reviews, I'm old enough to know that the world is not black and white. I am of the opinion that without different opinions, no discussion can work. Why am I doing this? In the eight years that I have been here at Tomatoville, I have met a lot of decent and helpful people that I would dare to address as friends. Whenever I needed something, someone called and sent it to me without claiming any reciprocal service. I think Tomatoville kind of made me a little better person. This event is my thanks to all Tomatovillans. I couldn't think of anything better.
Vladimír PS.: I am currently waiting for the company to deliver me about 3,000 ordered and paid seeds. Today, RJGlew told me that he would send seed packages to all Tomatovilanes. Those interested should send their postal address to me or directly to him. |
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#28 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Ústí nad Labem in the north of the Czech Republic
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Nicely put, Vladimir.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Wasilla Alaska
Posts: 2,010
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Reading, Pennsylvania
Posts: 48
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Well said, Vladimir. |
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