The San Marzano Report. - Page 2

Carriehelene · June 18, 2015

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Originally Posted by OzoneNY

I grew them in Queens for 20 years. I miss the ease of growing in that superior soil.

Lol, I wondered why you had NY in your name when you're from TX. Now I know

OzoneNY · June 21, 2015

my San Marzano collection thus far.

A few Super San Marzano and some Costuloto Genovese in the back of the line but all the foreground tomatos are SM

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cjp1953 · June 21, 2015

I have 4 plants that doing great,they where the first to have tomatos.Make great sauce and love to roast them at 250 degrees for 4 or 5 hours split in two with olive oil and garlic.Comes out as sweet as can be.

Carriehelene · June 21, 2015

Ozone, nice haul so far

is it really different growing in TX compared to NY?

PhilaGardener · June 21, 2015

Well, for one, nearer to NY we are still waiting to see any red

OzoneNY · June 22, 2015

Yes. Growing here is a whole different set of rules. In NY I would plant out around Mothers Day and come back end of August and start picking till first frost. In N Dallas I start around St Patrick's Day and hope to get enough by around July 4th before it gets to 104 deg and everything burst into flames.
Also, in this part of the state it is heavy clay. So thick you could bake it as is and make shower tile. So it needs some good amending however the clay in my yard does have a good nutrient base so its not so bad, but not nearly as good as the rich sandy stuff I had in my yard in Queens.
Its more work here, but many in the area do well with just a little more effort and some good info.
My next door neighbors here are retired school teachers from Syracuse NY and her first year growing tomatoes here in TX was a flat out disaster, Second year was as bad as the first, though this year she did MUCH better. She was about to give up but that was because she was planting all wrong for this area. I was too but like I said, the rules are different but once I learn what to look out for and how to work with the season then it all began to come together.

Tracydr · June 22, 2015

When you're harvesting greens, herbs and other cool weather stuff all winter, you may forget how much you loved NY.
Year round growing is a luxury. I may like my winter garden variety even better than the summer!

Worth1 · June 22, 2015

The Dallas Fort Worth area was built on some of the best farm land in the country.
You nust have to know what you are doing with black prairie soil.
Worth

OzoneNY · June 22, 2015

black prairie soil is what I have but the clay is really unlike anything I have seen before. But I agree, it worked in the past, my house sits on what used to be a farm field. Its got good nutrients but it sticks to everything!

Worth1 · June 22, 2015

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Originally Posted by OzoneNY

black prairie soil is what I have but the clay is really unlike anything I have seen before. But I agree, it worked in the past, my house sits on what used to be a farm field. Its got good nutrients but it sticks to everything!

Not much of a window for working the soil that's for sure.
Either too wet or hard as a rock.
I remember when all of it was beautiful farm land years ago.
Now it is concrete and houses.
Worth

DrTrish · June 28, 2015

I grew San Marzano for the first time last year and was very impressed. The plant produced a ton of tomatoes that made a very tasty pasta sauce, and the plants were the last in the garden to blight. I am interested to see how they do this year considering we have had nothing but heavy rain for 3 weeks.

korney19 · June 29, 2015

Anybody know how big the dwarf SM plant gets?

clkeiper · June 29, 2015

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Originally Posted by korney19

Anybody know how big the dwarf SM plant gets?

I didn't know there was a dwarf. the SM I grew last year was less than 4' tall and it wasn't a dwarf.

PA_Julia · June 29, 2015

My San Marzano plant is cranking along quite nicely despite the rain here in eastern PA.

I have three trusses at various stages of tomato growth at this point.
The plant seems a bit squatty being a bit shorter than many of my other plants but wide and bushy.

Overall I'm pleased with the plants performance.

Dewayne mater · June 29, 2015

I have 2 SMs growing (first time for me), one in a container, one in soil. The productivity of both has been exceptional. They are both continuing to set fruit, though the trusses now only have a couple of fruit, whereas before the heat 3-5 per truss was common. The one in the soil is only behind Sungold for overall productivity.

Fresh SM pizza sauce on home made crust and pizza tonight. Will feature some thin sliced heirlooms on top as well because when you got em, eat em!

Dewayne Mater

June 29, 2015	#29
PA_Julia Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Princeton, Ky Zone 7A Posts: 2,208	My San Marzano plant is cranking along quite nicely despite the rain here in eastern PA. I have three trusses at various stages of tomato growth at this point. The plant seems a bit squatty being a bit shorter than many of my other plants but wide and bushy. Overall I'm pleased with the plants performance. __________________ Personal Best- 4.46 LB Big Zac 2013

June 21, 2015	#17
OzoneNY Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Frisco Texas Posts: 390	my San Marzano collection thus far. A few Super San Marzano and some Costuloto Genovese in the back of the line but all the foreground tomatos are SM 035a.jpg

June 21, 2015	#18
cjp1953 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cuyahoga Falls,Ohio Posts: 818	I have 4 plants that doing great,they where the first to have tomatos.Make great sauce and love to roast them at 250 degrees for 4 or 5 hours split in two with olive oil and garlic.Comes out as sweet as can be.

June 21, 2015	#19
Carriehelene Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 300	Ozone, nice haul so far is it really different growing in TX compared to NY?

June 21, 2015	#20
PhilaGardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Near Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,940	Well, for one, nearer to NY we are still waiting to see any red

June 22, 2015	#21
OzoneNY Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Frisco Texas Posts: 390	Yes. Growing here is a whole different set of rules. In NY I would plant out around Mothers Day and come back end of August and start picking till first frost. In N Dallas I start around St Patrick's Day and hope to get enough by around July 4th before it gets to 104 deg and everything burst into flames. Also, in this part of the state it is heavy clay. So thick you could bake it as is and make shower tile. So it needs some good amending however the clay in my yard does have a good nutrient base so its not so bad, but not nearly as good as the rich sandy stuff I had in my yard in Queens. Its more work here, but many in the area do well with just a little more effort and some good info. My next door neighbors here are retired school teachers from Syracuse NY and her first year growing tomatoes here in TX was a flat out disaster, Second year was as bad as the first, though this year she did MUCH better. She was about to give up but that was because she was planting all wrong for this area. I was too but like I said, the rules are different but once I learn what to look out for and how to work with the season then it all began to come together.

June 22, 2015	#22
Tracydr Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2011 Location: Laurinburg, North Carolina, zone 7 Posts: 3,207	When you're harvesting greens, herbs and other cool weather stuff all winter, you may forget how much you loved NY. Year round growing is a luxury. I may like my winter garden variety even better than the summer!

June 22, 2015	#23
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	The Dallas Fort Worth area was built on some of the best farm land in the country. You nust have to know what you are doing with black prairie soil. Worth

June 28, 2015	#26
DrTrish Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: northcentral IN Posts: 29	I grew San Marzano for the first time last year and was very impressed. The plant produced a ton of tomatoes that made a very tasty pasta sauce, and the plants were the last in the garden to blight. I am interested to see how they do this year considering we have had nothing but heavy rain for 3 weeks.

June 29, 2015	#27
korney19 Buffalo-Niagara Tomato TasteFest™ Co-Founder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Niagara Frontier Posts: 942	Anybody know how big the dwarf SM plant gets?

June 29, 2015	#30
Dewayne mater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2008 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,212	I have 2 SMs growing (first time for me), one in a container, one in soil. The productivity of both has been exceptional. They are both continuing to set fruit, though the trusses now only have a couple of fruit, whereas before the heat 3-5 per truss was common. The one in the soil is only behind Sungold for overall productivity. Fresh SM pizza sauce on home made crust and pizza tonight. Will feature some thin sliced heirlooms on top as well because when you got em, eat em! Dewayne Mater