A glossary of commonly used tomato culture abbreviations - Page 2

**Mischka** · December 28, 2009

If we can keep this thread running with additional abbreviations, I will consolidate them into page in the FAQ section of the forum... please keep 'em coming folks!

Barbee · December 28, 2009

Hard to just pull the abbreviations out of the hat.
TTC --Texas Tomato Cage
(sp) --spelling issues...may or may not be spelled right
TT---Tomato Tone fertilizer
SWC --self watering container
IOW -- in other words
FWIW -- for what it's worth
FYI -- for your information
MG --Miracle Gro AKA the "blue stuff"
AKA --also known as

kd3 · December 31, 2009

BWPS - Big White Pink Stripes (seems to be marketed by the accronym alone)
BER - Blossom End Rot
TMV - Tobacco Mosaic Virus
TSWV - Tomato Spotted Wilt Virus

And I have seen one for Semi-Determinant, but unsure what is correct acronym.
Thanks so much, this will be useful :-) kd

Raymondo · January 2, 2010

Quote:

All dwarfs are determinate, ...

'Fraid not. Dwarfs may be determinate or indeterminate. Dwarfism has to do with internode length, which doesn't seem at all related to flowering habit, the determinant of whether a variety is determinate or indeterminate, as the dwarf project is showing with its numerous indeterminate varieties.

husker nana · March 16, 2011

abbreviations
Being fairly new here I would see all these abbreviations and wonder what they stood for. I ran accross this thread and thought it was very useful. Last post was in Jan.2010

riceke · March 17, 2011

Was LMAO mentioned = laughing my a-- off.

**nctomatoman** · March 18, 2011

I think the dwarf situation is worth discussing a bit more. ALL dwarfs are "shorter" than indeterminate varieties, and all ALL dwarfs are very distinct in growth habit - very stocky, thick central stem, crinkly, dark green foliage. When we refer to indeterminate and determinate dwarfs, it is more around how they shoot out the blossom clusters, and height potential. Indeterminate dwarfs - such as Summertime Green, Summertime Gold (all of the Sneezy family), will top out at 4 feet or maybe a bit more by the end of the growing season (compare to a true indeterminate, which can go 8-12 plus feet, if you stake). They tend to have the blossom clusters off the main central stem, within the foliage radius of the plant (you don't typically see indeterminate dwarfs shooting blossom clusters beyond the foliage). Determinate dwarfs, which seem to be a characteristic of the Sleepy family - Rosella Crimson, Rosella Purple as examples - and the Grumpy family - are "rounder" looking plants - more branching, less rapid upward growth, topping out at 3 feet or so. These are the ones that can pop enormous blossom clusters out the top of the plants. But all Dwarfs, like indeterminate varieties, flower and fruit all year, until killed by frost.

It really isn't all that clear cut - there are selections that seem to be in between the two above. But it really isn't important, since all dwarfs - both determinate and indeterminate - are easily caged and grown on short stakes.....

frogwash · March 19, 2011

GWR - Green When Ripe

**Mischka** · March 20, 2011

CSA - community supported agriculture, also known as "subscription farming."

You purchase a subscription from a local farmer, just like you would do for a subscription to a weekly newspaper or magazine. The difference is that you receive fresh, locally grown or raised fruit and/or vegetables.

CSA subscribers pay upfront for the season of produce (average is $400-$600). This early bulk payment enables the local farmer to plan for the season, purchase new seed, make equipment repairs and more.

Some farmers also offer CSA subscriptions for farm-fresh eggs, and/or meats.

Alpinejs · March 23, 2011

As a newbie, I think this is a great idea, but can't help wondering why the
poster can't just peck out the name of a mater like Brandywine instead of
having an abbreviation of BW. Yes, often I can figure them out, but the time it
takes me to do that is longer than the time it would have taken the author to
type the name for the benefit of all newbies and some oldtimers.

kevinrs · March 23, 2011

I think with brandywine it's because both it's a popular type, and there are multiple variations. With something like Potato Leaf/Regular Leaf - PL/RL you might be discussing a whole list of tomatoes, and have to type the long way dozens of times in a post of the list. Also, there's the spelling to consider, you can probably figure it out if you need to type it out, but you might have to stop typing and think about it.

FILMNET · March 23, 2011

Thats a load of BS!!!!!

Sorry i had to do this

dice · March 23, 2011

RTFM - read the fine manual

**carolyn137** · March 23, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by FILMNET

Thats a load of BS!!!!!

Sorry i had to do this

No, you didn't have to do it. I was going to edit your post but decided to leave it for now and just to say that using such an abbreviation that's known to all doesn't stand for the variety Big Sungold. So please do refrain yourself in the future.

Alpine, everyone starts out as a newbie at some point and thre are abbreviations that one learns as one learns more and more about tomato varieties. If you don't understand some of the abbreviations then just ask the person posting what one stands for if you don't see it in the posts above.

There will never be a comprehensive list of tomato variety abbreviations for the simple fact that there upwards of 10-12,000 varieties in circulation. Add to that that many Tville members who are from countries where the spellings of some varieties are truly hard to remember without looking them up each time you want to fully name a variety. And many US folks grow those same varieties.

And there are varieties not just from Europe and other countries, but tons of them from the US that also are hard to spell. If you look at the thread on grow lists here in the GEneral Discussion Forum you'll see that almost to a person variety names are spelled out in full. That's for the Grow lists, but in regular posts many use abbreviations and I do myself.

So, again, if you see an abbreviation for a variety that you don't know, just ask the person right in that thread what it stands for b'c if you PM the person about it that means that perhaps others who didn't know what it stood for and were too shy, or whatever to ask, won't know either.

Hope that helps.

barkeater · March 23, 2011

The proper way to use any acronym such as "BW" is to use it only after it was first spelled out: Brandywine. Then it can be subsequently referred to as BW as most all readers will be able to figure out what it means, newbie or not. To begin an initial post full of abbreviations or acronyms in any forum is just rude (ask Miss Manners).;-)

December 28, 2009	#16
Mischka Tomatoville® Administrator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Bay State Posts: 3,207	If we can keep this thread running with additional abbreviations, I will consolidate them into page in the FAQ section of the forum... please keep 'em coming folks! __________________ Mischka One last word of farewell, Dear Master and Mistress. Whenever you visit my grave, say to yourselves with regret but also with happiness in your hearts at the remembrance of my long happy life with you: "Here lies one who loved us and whom we loved." No matter how deep my sleep I shall hear you, and not all the power of death can keep my spirit from wagging a grateful tail.

December 28, 2009	#17
Barbee Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 1,818	Hard to just pull the abbreviations out of the hat. TTC --Texas Tomato Cage (sp) --spelling issues...may or may not be spelled right TT---Tomato Tone fertilizer SWC --self watering container IOW -- in other words FWIW -- for what it's worth FYI -- for your information MG --Miracle Gro AKA the "blue stuff" AKA --also known as __________________ *Barbee*

March 17, 2011	#21
riceke Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Snellville, GA Posts: 346	LMAO Was LMAO mentioned = laughing my a-- off. __________________ *Ken*

March 18, 2011	#22
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	I think the dwarf situation is worth discussing a bit more. ALL dwarfs are "shorter" than indeterminate varieties, and all ALL dwarfs are very distinct in growth habit - very stocky, thick central stem, crinkly, dark green foliage. When we refer to indeterminate and determinate dwarfs, it is more around how they shoot out the blossom clusters, and height potential. Indeterminate dwarfs - such as Summertime Green, Summertime Gold (all of the Sneezy family), will top out at 4 feet or maybe a bit more by the end of the growing season (compare to a true indeterminate, which can go 8-12 plus feet, if you stake). They tend to have the blossom clusters off the main central stem, within the foliage radius of the plant (you don't typically see indeterminate dwarfs shooting blossom clusters beyond the foliage). Determinate dwarfs, which seem to be a characteristic of the Sleepy family - Rosella Crimson, Rosella Purple as examples - and the Grumpy family - are "rounder" looking plants - more branching, less rapid upward growth, topping out at 3 feet or so. These are the ones that can pop enormous blossom clusters out the top of the plants. But all Dwarfs, like indeterminate varieties, flower and fruit all year, until killed by frost. It really isn't all that clear cut - there are selections that seem to be in between the two above. But it really isn't important, since all dwarfs - both determinate and indeterminate - are easily caged and grown on short stakes..... __________________ Craig

March 19, 2011	#23
frogwash Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Zone 8B or 9? Castaic, CA 91384 Posts: 122	GWR - Green When Ripe __________________ happy growing, Theo

December 31, 2009	#18
kd3 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 75	BWPS - Big White Pink Stripes (seems to be marketed by the accronym alone) BER - Blossom End Rot TMV - Tobacco Mosaic Virus TSWV - Tomato Spotted Wilt Virus And I have seen one for Semi-Determinant, but unsure what is correct acronym. Thanks so much, this will be useful :-) kd

March 16, 2011	#20
husker nana Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wisc. 5A Posts: 197	abbreviations Being fairly new here I would see all these abbreviations and wonder what they stood for. I ran accross this thread and thought it was very useful. Last post was in Jan.2010

March 20, 2011	#24
Mischka Tomatoville® Administrator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Bay State Posts: 3,207	CSA - community supported agriculture, also known as "subscription farming." You purchase a subscription from a local farmer, just like you would do for a subscription to a weekly newspaper or magazine. The difference is that you receive fresh, locally grown or raised fruit and/or vegetables. CSA subscribers pay upfront for the season of produce (average is $400-$600). This early bulk payment enables the local farmer to plan for the season, purchase new seed, make equipment repairs and more. Some farmers also offer CSA subscriptions for farm-fresh eggs, and/or meats. __________________ Mischka One last word of farewell, Dear Master and Mistress. Whenever you visit my grave, say to yourselves with regret but also with happiness in your hearts at the remembrance of my long happy life with you: "Here lies one who loved us and whom we loved." No matter how deep my sleep I shall hear you, and not all the power of death can keep my spirit from wagging a grateful tail.

March 23, 2011	#25
Alpinejs Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Alpine, Calif. in winter. Sandpoint Lake, Ont. Canada summers Posts: 850	As a newbie, I think this is a great idea, but can't help wondering why the poster can't just peck out the name of a mater like Brandywine instead of having an abbreviation of BW. Yes, often I can figure them out, but the time it takes me to do that is longer than the time it would have taken the author to type the name for the benefit of all newbies and some oldtimers.

March 23, 2011	#26
kevinrs Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Littlerock, CA Posts: 218	I think with brandywine it's because both it's a popular type, and there are multiple variations. With something like Potato Leaf/Regular Leaf - PL/RL you might be discussing a whole list of tomatoes, and have to type the long way dozens of times in a post of the list. Also, there's the spelling to consider, you can probably figure it out if you need to type it out, but you might have to stop typing and think about it.

March 23, 2011	#27
FILMNET Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Charleston,South Carolina, USA Posts: 1,803	Thats a load of BS!!!!! Sorry i had to do this

March 23, 2011	#28
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	RTFM - read the fine manual __________________ -- alias

March 23, 2011	#30
barkeater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NE Kingdom, VT - Zone 3b Posts: 1,439	The proper way to use any acronym such as "BW" is to use it only after it was first spelled out: Brandywine. Then it can be subsequently referred to as BW as most all readers will be able to figure out what it means, newbie or not. To begin an initial post full of abbreviations or acronyms in any forum is just rude (ask Miss Manners).;-)