This pic is very altered right?

[FlipTX]

Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure the two lower tomatoes in my avatar are Black Sea Man.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by vermiit

I have to say, it compromises SSE integrity in my mind with doctored photos like that. They also make all their black tomatoes midnight black Show me the real thing!

The photos aren't doctored.

Orginal photos are OK. The problem comes when the public catalog is printed or they're transferred to the website from what I understand.

I know that Linda Sapp at TGS flies to the place where her catalogs are printed and stands by to be sure that the color expression is as close as it can be to what's right.

Vermit, I'm sorry but I can't agree with you that the integrity of SSE is at question. That's a pretty strong comment you made. This whole thread has been about the picture of one variety. When you look in the catalog or at the website how many others do you see that you would ID as being wrong for the variety?

[Woodchuck]

It's poor quality photography that's compounded when taken to 'print'.
Take a look at all the SSE pics of Black Sea Man, the pic on the website, pdf catalog pic and print catalog pic. The print catalog pic is only slightly worse than the internet pic.


The Internet=Piracy.

You're fighting an unwinnable war if you think you can counter piracy with threats.

Disabling right clicking just invites piracy. Anyone who really wants the pic can grab it from their browsers cache. Oops...did I just say that.

Watermarks help, especially micro watermarks that don't interfere with the integrity of the pic.

"Shrink Wrapping" a pic is best. It's a Javascript technique that gives the low-life bottom feeding pirate a totally different pic when right clicking and saving!


~Woodchuck

[vermiit]

Integrity of the photograph, for accuracy, you informed me that SSE said it was a process in the printing/online - so they also say it isn't accurate. I'm glad it isn't saturated on purpose, as was my assumption, by graphic editors that like a pretty picture.

I certainly didn't mean the 'integrity' of the foundation!! GOod grief. I'd just like to see accurate photographs, especially from a place like SSE. I WISH they had a tom that had those colors as Sea Man looks like in the op picture. I'm bi-color addicted

[feldon30]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

I thought I recognized the picture ASAP and I was right.

It's the same picture that's in the SSE Public catalog, which is protected by copyright and the same funky colors are also shown in the SSE photo.

I know pictures in my book were protected by copyright and were still lifted to many different sites and I remember Aaron Whaley at SSE e-mailing me about one place in Canada that had lifted pictures from both the SSE public catalog/website as well as my book.

It's really unfortunate that people lift photos like this. It's proof that seed companies buy seeds in bulk from SSE, turn around, and go into business selling them, having never actually grown them. I cannot believe it's that hard to grab a camera and take a picture. I can tell you that tomatoes are very photogenic.

Originally Posted by vermiit

I'm glad it isn't saturated on purpose, as was my assumption, by graphic editors that like a pretty picture.

As a graphic designer, I was really shocked at the coloration of the 2007 SSE Catalog. About 50% of the photos are completely blown out and oversaturated. Some are extremely purple, some extremely red, some extremely green. And it's not certain pages. There are photos that look perfectly fine on the same page with photos of red tomatoes that are shocking purple. Kellogg's Breakfast is radioactive pinkish-red (supposed to be orangish-yellow). Jaune Flamme (correct French btw) is blood red (also supposed to be orange).

I had originally chalked it up to an overenthusiastic graphic designer, but then the same photos appear correct in the 2008 SSE Catalog.

My closing comment on this thread is that the 2008 SSE Catalog looks fantastic. The problems seem to have been completely resolved. I see few if any saturation problems. A few photos are a bit dark, but colors look VERY accurate to me. I would not hesitate to use almost any picture in the SSE Catalog as a representation of what that variety actually looks like.