Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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June 1, 2010 | #16 |
Tomatovillian™
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To fill the bed, I'm having topsoil & partially composted mulch delivered tomorrow morning. None of the clay I dug out will be used for the bed. With delivery it is costing about $70; that's including an extra 'scoop' for the other plants I plan on setting in bottomless 5 gal. buckets in a row in the adjacent field. So the total cost of the blocks + soil puts the bed's price @ $100. Called my county government office & got forwarded a few times until I got ahold of the helpful person that told me where they dump all the leaves the county collects in the autumn. So this fall I plan on having a huge compost pile; will clear part of the adjacent field to make room.
Will definitely do the rebar thing. I started digging the bed out around 8pm last night & finished a little after 10:30. Now to go buy some conduit. =D |
June 1, 2010 | #17 |
Tomatovillian™
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Location: Fairfax, VA Z7
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I would place 10% of the clay soil into the mix as the clay has some nice properties which will be beneficial to your plants.
George |
June 4, 2010 | #18 |
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Almost done. The bed is 16" high, with an additional ~8" dug down from the base for a total depth of around 2'. Four feet wide by twelve feet long gives a total volume of around 96 cubic feet. The 52 blocks @0.97 cost a total of 55 dollars. The fill I had delivered consited of 1 part partially composted mulch @$24.00 & 4 parts topsoil @ $16 a scoop. Delivery was $16, making the total cost of the bed $165.
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June 9, 2010 | #19 |
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The raised bed is now home to 10 Brandywine, complete with guard cat. They should be much happier now that they're out of pots & have room to stretch. I planted them about 18" deep & started removing trusses, but had to stop as it was hurting my feelings. Thanks to b54red for the conduit idea; $2 for 10' sections: can't beat that with a stick. Now all I need to do is move that pile of hardpan & clear some of the field... for more tomatoes. =D
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June 9, 2010 | #20 |
Tomatovillian™
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Looking really nice and I agree that you can't beat $2 for 10 ft conduit pipe
George |
June 9, 2010 | #21 |
Tomatovillian™
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Location: zone 6b, PA
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That's a really sturdy and inexpensive option for trellising in raised beds! Thanks for the ideas and the pics. And you have a very pretty and contented looking kitty, as well!
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June 9, 2010 | #22 |
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Thanks. =) Got the idea for the trellis from B54RED's post(s):
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...sturdy+trellis Hope I didn't prune too aggresively, as I didn't want any leaves in contact with the mulch. Reading how Brandywine is only a moderate producer, I'm surprised at the number of flowers it's developing so far. |
June 9, 2010 | #23 |
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Oops, thanks to b54red for the ideas for trellis support. Somehow I must have missed that thread.
I wouldn't worry about overpruning the lower leaves; I think keeping the ones above the fruit set is more important. As far as Brandywine goes, I tried growing it twice in the past and wound up with l or 2 fruits. But I decided to give Suddeth's and Cowlick's a try this year and I have 5 fruits on the Suddeth's just from the first flower cluster and 2 on the Cowlick's so far, so maybe we'll both have good luck with them this year. |
June 9, 2010 | #24 |
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Good to hear Kath! May you have a fruitful harvest. =) These Brandywine were bought at my local Frank Otte Nursery & garden center. Wish I had planted some from seed for comparison's sake.
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June 9, 2010 | #25 |
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Thanks! If you'd like to do a comparison next year, save some seed. I'll hopefully be able to save seed from Suddeth's, Cowlick's and Brandywine Black and would be happy to send some your way.
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June 9, 2010 | #26 |
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Scweet! Bought the seeds I have a few weeks too late to really plant this season, but the ones I have are:
1 *Akers West Virginia 2 -Ananas Noire 3 *Andrew Raharts Jumbo Red 4 -Arkansas Traveler 5 -Aunt Gertie's Gold 6 -Aunt Ginnies Purple 7 -Aunt Ruby's German Green 8 -Beauty King 9 -Berkeley Tie Dye 11 -Black From Tula 12 -Black Krim 14 -Brad's Black Heart 15 -Brandywine 16 -Brandywine Black 19 -Brandywine Red 20 -Brandywine Sudduth 21 -Brandywine Yellow Platfoot 22 -Carbon 23 *Chapman 24 -Cherokee Purple 25 -Cherokee Green 26 *Crnkovic Yugoslavian 27 -Cuostralee 28 *Dikaya Roza 29 -Dr. Lyle 30 -Druzba 32 -Earl's Faux 33 -Eva Purple Ball 34 -Gary O'Sena 35 *Germaid Red 36 *German Head 38 *Giant Belgium Heirloom 39 -Gogosha 40 -Goose Creek 41 *Green Giant 42 -Grubs Mystery Green 43 *Heatherington Pink 44 -Hughs 45 -Indian Stripe 46 -JD's Special C-Tex 47 -KBX 48 -Lillian's Yellow Heirloom 49 -Lithuanian 52 -Mariannas Peace 53 -Maynel 54 -Mortgage Lifter 55 -Mule Team 56 -Narx 57 -Neves Azorean Red 58 *Omar's Lebanese 59 *Pamyati Korneeva 60 -Paul Robeson 61 Pineapple 62 -Pork Chop 63 *Prue 64 -Purple Haze 65 *Red Barn 66 -Royal Hillbilly 67 -Sherrill 68 -Stump of the World 69 *Tappys Finest 71 -Vera's Seed 73 *1884 Purple The ones struck through are ones I added to list that I don't yet have. |
June 9, 2010 | #27 |
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Nice list! I'm also growing 32 of those this year, most for the first time, and want to save seed. Have to hope that the late blight stays far, far away from our gardens this year and doesn't wreak havoc with those plans!
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June 9, 2010 | #28 |
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Late Blight, ugh. It's been spotted here in Kentucky already. Currently using Actinovate & MycoGrow Soluble as a drench & foliar spray. The MycoGrow contains:
Glomus intraradices, Glomus mosseae, Glomus aggregatum, Glomus clarum, Glomus deserticola, Glomus etunicatum, Gigaspora margarita, Gigaspora brasilianum, Gigaspora monosporum Rhizopogon villosullus, Rhizopogon luteolus, Rhizopogon amylopogon, Rhizopogon fulvigleba, Pisolithus tinctorius, Laccaria bicolor, Laccaria laccata, Scleroderma cepa, Scleroderma citrinum, Suillus granulatas, Suillus punctatapies Trichoderma harzianum, Trichoderma konigii Bacillus subtillus, Bacillus licheniformis, Bacillus azotoformans, Bacillus megaterium, Bacillus coagulans, Bacillus pumlis, Bacillus thuringiensis, Bacillus stearothermiphilis, Paenibacillus polymyxa, Paenibacillus durum, Paenibacillus florescence, Paenibacillus gordonae, Azotobacter polymyxa, Azotobacter chroococcum, Sacchromyces cervisiae, Streptomyces griseues, Streptomyces lydicus, Pseudomonas aureofaceans, Deinococcus erythromyxa Also have some Serenade on the way to add to the foliar rotation. Hopefully all those fungi, Trichoderma & bacteria will crowd out any Late Blight that finds it's way to my garden. |
June 9, 2010 | #29 |
Tomatovillian™
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From reading Ami's posts, I decided to use Actinovate and Excel-LG. Someone told me Serenade didn't work for them. I'm interested in the MycoGrow, though-where did you purchase it? Didn't use anything last year and had to pull all my tomatoes, peppers and potatoes by July 27th, which meant this far north we didn't taste a tomato from most of those plants.
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June 9, 2010 | #30 |
Tomatovillian™
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Mycogrow: http://www.fungi.com/mycogrow/ Believe I saw the link from a post of Ami's some time ago.
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