Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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October 31, 2010 | #16 |
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Ted,
When I write the article I will send it here as well but these were in the experiment; Arbuus (which is Arbuznyi)-look for three variations of spelling/translations, Beaverlodge 6808, Beaverlodge Slicer, Bison, Canabec Super, Cold Set, Earlicrop, Gold Dust (which turned out NOT to be GD, Glacier, Harnas, Early Chatham, Kibits, Oregon Spring Bush, Earlinorth, Polar Circle, Early Russia, Sub-Arctic Midi, SA Maxi, Uri 67, Victoria, Vodar, Morden yellow, Tarasenko6, Zloty O, Park's Whopper, Matina, Holland, Faywort, Jagodka, Czech Bush, Bawole Serce... Stupice is not even on my repeating list |
October 31, 2010 | #17 |
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Earl,
I don't know if you still have my list, but I traded you some Spudakee Purple for Barlow Jap. I want to trade something for a few of your Harnas seed. I want to grow them against Siberian and Early Wonder. I will probably plant out in mid March and see which produces first. I'm also curious if any of the three can hold up to our high heat starting in late May or early June. If the Harnas do well in my zone 7b, I will save seed in order to make it a little more available for gardeners. Ted |
November 1, 2010 | #18 | |
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As a fellow northern grower, I understand the importance of earliness. Over the years I've tried several of those listed, but not in the same year. Thanks for the useful information. I've been doing some breeding for better tasting earliy types, and it looks like I need Harnas as part of the program - thanks.
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November 1, 2010 | #19 |
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Morden Yellow was surprisingly tasty and bigger than expected.
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November 1, 2010 | #20 |
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Same for Glacier.
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November 1, 2010 | #21 |
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Interesting paste from the past...
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November 1, 2010 | #22 | |
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For instance, Andrey sent me seeds for both Vodar and Vezha and I SSE lsited them as did Andrey and Tania. But when I read through the other listings for both of them I see rough DTM's that range from about 65 to 80 days as grown by different folks in different places. For me in my zone 5 area neither one was early. And Bawole Cerce, as I know it, aka Serdtse Buivola, DTM 75-80 days by the two of us who list it. Matina? A look and tastealike for Stupice in my experience. And not early. Have you taken a look at the list of earlies that Jeff Casey has at his website? He's in Canada in a zone 3 area and has a lot of experience with earlies; http://members.shaw.ca/jwlcasey/Case...toes/Home.html I've grown all the sub thises and that's and Glacier and many others so called earlies and I gave up doing that years ago b/c with just a week or two more I could have fruits that I really tasted good. And please don't forget Moravsky Div as an early, another one Andrey sent to me and it is early and for me and quite a few others has great taste. Also Sophie's Choice from Edmonton, Canada is early with large fruits to boot, and also tasty. My original seeds from a person in CA who got them from a friend who got them from someone in Edmonton, unnamed, so it was the friend in CA who named it Sophie's Choice.
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November 1, 2010 | #23 |
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A good balance would be Harnas, Arbuzni, Early Chatham, Pearly Pink, Polar Circle, Cold Set, Vodar, Stupice, Victoria...these were the first to blossom and set fruit.
All were better than a grocery tomato. My favorite eaters were; Stump X Bear Claw, Cherokee Purple, Black Krim, big blacks are hard to beat...check these out...up to 1 1/2 lbs. |
November 1, 2010 | #24 |
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A note on Vodar: while it is a good tomato, with nice texture,
size, production, and early enough for short summers, flavor was bland for me in a summer that had no more than a few days above 80F/27C. Yet Suze, growing it in Texas, described the flavor as excellent ( http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Vodar ). So I would guess that while it will produce well enough and early enough for a short summer climate, it needs summers where midsummer temperatures will get beyond the typical summer temperatures of cool maritime climates to achieve flavor better than most commercial hybrids.
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November 4, 2010 | #25 |
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other earlies from backyard garden
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November 4, 2010 | #26 |
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Victoria
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December 12, 2010 | #27 |
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I would like to order some Harnas Tomato seeds.. does anyone know where I can locate some?
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December 19, 2010 | #28 | |
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Your question isn't being ignored. I only know of the existence of six Harnas seed and I don't have those. Wish I did. I'm hoping more will be available next year. It really looks interesting, Ted |
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December 20, 2010 | #29 |
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I noticed that Adaptive Seeds is keeping some of the
Peters Seed Research varieties available commercially: Forest Fire: http://www.adaptiveseeds.com/node/36 Spring King (bland for me but super productive): http://www.adaptiveseeds.com/node/35 Natlve Sun: http://www.adaptiveseeds.com/node/166 They also have Morden Yellow and Katja: Morden Yellow: http://www.adaptiveseeds.com/node/73 Katja: http://www.adaptiveseeds.com/node/107 (No Harnas, though.)
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Was there a connection between the Harnas variety and Peters Seed Research that you are aware of? The following quote from Carolyn leads me to believe the variety is still primarily a European or Belarus variety. If it wasn't listed until the 2010 Yearbook was compiled, I assume it simply hasn't experienced wide distribution. Being new to tracking seed down, I'm curious about how one would obtain seed from Belarus. Ted "Harnas was listed in the 2010 Yearbook by Andrey from Belarus as det, with very good yield of dark red oblate-round 100-120 gm fruits, all purpose use, early, from Polish CV PNOS, Ozarow Mazowiecki" |
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