Christopher Columbus - Page 2

walkinggin · September 18, 2010

Darjones, Thank you so much for the offer! This is a generous group here at tomatoville, so as it happens I have already accepted an offer of seeds from elsewhere.

Given the number of varieties you have experience with, that you consider Christopher Columbus to be a dependable tomato for your hot conditions in the way that Heidi is carries a lot of weight. I am really looking forward to trying Christopher Columbus in the dry heat of So. CA.

Ginny

amideutch · January 6, 2011

Here are to links to the site that sells Christopher Columbus seeds. Not knowing if this was the same variety I grew I went ahead and ordered a Pack. Upon receiving acknowledgement that my order was in the mail I sent a reply asking the individual the history of the tomato. Here is his reply.

Quote:

This heirloom tomato, although it has a new world origin, came from the Calabria Region of Italy and goes back many years as a natural unhybridized or cross-bred variety. History indicates that the tomato variety was brought to Italy from Spain.
Since the heirloom comes with a close relationship to its origin it is very susceptible to deceases, particularly fungus deceases. This can be controlled with early and continued spraying with a fungisidle treatment.
I guarantee that you will not eat a better tasting sun rippened tomato.
Good growing, Joseph Venier

Here are the links to the site where you can order the seed. Ami

http://connectjv.freeservers.com/

http://members.fortunecity.com/conne...umbustomatoes/

**carolyn137** · January 6, 2011

Interesting Ami.

The two sites are really the same and neither one is the one that I remember from several years back.

The question being, do I really want to be a member of the CC Society? I don't know. Maybe I could shed my Bookclub to open up some room.

If one reads Andy Smith's book on the history of the tomato, and it's well documented, it says that the tomatoes that the Spanish took back to Europe were yellow, and after that at some point red ones appeared and were taken to Italy by Spanish missionaries.

And he also describes the spread of tomatoes from S America, by the Spanish, to the many places elsewhere, such as the Caribeean, the Phillipines and more.

I just read a really interesting book about the three most important cities that were involved in the spice trade and long ago the Spanish were the first to be heavily involved and they travelled to many at that time exotic places in the East in that endeavor, then for many reasons it transferred to the Dutch and then eventually to the English.

There will always be stories about where a certain tomato came from with little documentation. Many years ago an Englishman writing a novel contacted me and wanted to know if tomatoes at a certain date were found in a certain place in Africa. His novel was about some shipwrecked sailors and he wanted them to exist on mainly tomatoes when they got to shore.

Edited to add that I just realized that those two websites are by Joesph, who had first wet up a website years ago to sell the seeds, but at that time gave no history as he has in the above two websites, or the info he gave you Ami. Good news is that the seeds are now more reasonably priced.

Fusion_power · January 6, 2011

Yes, that is Joseph's website. It is a bit updated and as noted above, his price is a bit more reasonable. Once you get past all the hype, they are very good tomatoes. I have no reservations about recommending them for most growers. Just take his hyperbole with a grain of salt, same as you would a tomato.

DarJones

Mark0820 · January 7, 2011

I just noticed Gleckler Seed is selling Christopher Columbus tomato seed this year.

Mark0820 · August 22, 2011

Great update Tom! It is good to see your daughters help with the garden. It brings back memories of my childhood. How did you like the Christopher Columbus paste tomatoes?

(Admin note - in reference to http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=18849 (eg, Tom's blog updates) but copied to this thread for continuity of discussion.)

darwinslair · August 23, 2011

Christopher Columbus was immune to the heat, blight and wilt we have suffered this year. Wish I had planted more, but happy I have what I have. It is a great paste tomato, good tasting (for a paste) and very few seeds. Discouragingly few. Makes it a hard one to save seeds from. You really have to cut it apart, into small pieces, to find any seeds at all. Last year my biggest was 2.5 pounds. So far this year, just over a pound. Hoping the cold holds off so I get more.

Tom

MrsJustice · August 23, 2011

Hello Darwinslair

Where can i buy Christopher Columbus Seeds?

Is it an Heirloom? If Not i still want to try it.

darwinslair · August 23, 2011

I got some from Suze here. Would have to do a search for somewhere selling them I suppose.

Tom

MrsJustice · August 23, 2011

O. K.

Thank you

Tania · August 23, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrsJustice

Hello Darwinslair

Where can i buy Christopher Columbus Seeds?

Is it an Heirloom? If Not i still want to try it.

Gleckler Seeds.

Suze · August 24, 2011

http://www.glecklerseedmen.com/-Past...90_529080.aspx

darwinslair · August 24, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suze

http://www.glecklerseedmen.com/-Past...90_529080.aspx

<laughing> they say only 6 to 8 ounces.

I dont think I have got one that small yet.

Tom

Suze · August 25, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by darwinslair

<laughing> they say only 6 to 8 ounces.

I dont think I have got one that small yet.

Me neither - and I wonder if he meant to say 16-18 oz because that would also be more in line with the "that reach up to 6" long" part of the description.

Mark0820 · August 25, 2011

I added it to my list to buy from Gleckler seeds, but I would like to be sure they are selling "true" Christopher Columbus seeds. Does anyone know the original source of Adam's seed?

I thought there was a thread on TV with all the people who sent seeds to Adam to restart the family business, but I haven't been able to find it. I guess I am not using the correct search words.

January 6, 2011	#18
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Interesting Ami. The two sites are really the same and neither one is the one that I remember from several years back. The question being, do I really want to be a member of the CC Society? I don't know. Maybe I could shed my Bookclub to open up some room. If one reads Andy Smith's book on the history of the tomato, and it's well documented, it says that the tomatoes that the Spanish took back to Europe were yellow, and after that at some point red ones appeared and were taken to Italy by Spanish missionaries. And he also describes the spread of tomatoes from S America, by the Spanish, to the many places elsewhere, such as the Caribeean, the Phillipines and more. I just read a really interesting book about the three most important cities that were involved in the spice trade and long ago the Spanish were the first to be heavily involved and they travelled to many at that time exotic places in the East in that endeavor, then for many reasons it transferred to the Dutch and then eventually to the English. There will always be stories about where a certain tomato came from with little documentation. Many years ago an Englishman writing a novel contacted me and wanted to know if tomatoes at a certain date were found in a certain place in Africa. His novel was about some shipwrecked sailors and he wanted them to exist on mainly tomatoes when they got to shore. Edited to add that I just realized that those two websites are by Joesph, who had first wet up a website years ago to sell the seeds, but at that time gave no history as he has in the above two websites, or the info he gave you Ami. Good news is that the seeds are now more reasonably priced. __________________ Carolyn

August 23, 2011	#23
MrsJustice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hampton, Virginia Posts: 1,510	Hello Darwinslair Where can i buy Christopher Columbus Seeds? Is it an Heirloom? If Not i still want to try it. __________________ May God Bless you and my Garden, Amen https://www.angelfieldfarms.com MrsJustice as Farmer Joyce Beggs

August 23, 2011	#25
MrsJustice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hampton, Virginia Posts: 1,510	O. K. Thank you __________________ May God Bless you and my Garden, Amen https://www.angelfieldfarms.com MrsJustice as Farmer Joyce Beggs

September 18, 2010	#16
walkinggin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 196	Darjones, Thank you so much for the offer! This is a generous group here at tomatoville, so as it happens I have already accepted an offer of seeds from elsewhere. Given the number of varieties you have experience with, that you consider Christopher Columbus to be a dependable tomato for your hot conditions in the way that Heidi is carries a lot of weight. I am really looking forward to trying Christopher Columbus in the dry heat of So. CA. Ginny

January 6, 2011	#19
Fusion_power Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,250	Yes, that is Joseph's website. It is a bit updated and as noted above, his price is a bit more reasonable. Once you get past all the hype, they are very good tomatoes. I have no reservations about recommending them for most growers. Just take his hyperbole with a grain of salt, same as you would a tomato. DarJones

January 7, 2011	#20
Mark0820 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 907	I just noticed Gleckler Seed is selling Christopher Columbus tomato seed this year.

August 22, 2011	#21
Mark0820 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 907	Great update Tom! It is good to see your daughters help with the garden. It brings back memories of my childhood. How did you like the Christopher Columbus paste tomatoes? (Admin note - in reference to http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=18849 (eg, Tom's blog updates) but copied to this thread for continuity of discussion.)

August 23, 2011	#22
darwinslair Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lake Minnetonka MN Posts: 229	Christopher Columbus was immune to the heat, blight and wilt we have suffered this year. Wish I had planted more, but happy I have what I have. It is a great paste tomato, good tasting (for a paste) and very few seeds. Discouragingly few. Makes it a hard one to save seeds from. You really have to cut it apart, into small pieces, to find any seeds at all. Last year my biggest was 2.5 pounds. So far this year, just over a pound. Hoping the cold holds off so I get more. Tom

August 24, 2011	#27
Suze Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 3,027	http://www.glecklerseedmen.com/-Past...90_529080.aspx

August 25, 2011	#30
Mark0820 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 907	I added it to my list to buy from Gleckler seeds, but I would like to be sure they are selling "true" Christopher Columbus seeds. Does anyone know the original source of Adam's seed? I thought there was a thread on TV with all the people who sent seeds to Adam to restart the family business, but I haven't been able to find it. I guess I am not using the correct search words.