Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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July 19, 2011 | #16 | |
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First, every single person who lists it in the 2011 SSE YEarbook lists it as PL and that includes Tania as well, so there should be pictures at her site. And if you go to Garden Web and the FAQ's there's an article that I wrote many years ago before Tville opened and there are pictures there that illustrate the various leaf shapes that one can see. The pictures were provided by others to illustrate the FAQ/ I don't have any idea of the article you refer to at GW, but I'm sure I didn't say that potato leafs can vary, I'm not sure what that means. I have said that when one first looks at leaves on a small seedling they may look PL but as the plants mature they then become RL. So I have said that sometimes it's hard to ID a young seedling as being PL or Rl b'c of that. And there was once a link to a German website that Bill Malin did that showed a few variations in PL leaf forms, but it was more of a botanical classification than a useful one to most folks, at least IMO. And I'm sure I wasn't speaking to the situation where a specific variety has an RL original and a PL variant of that variety b/c I have rather strong feelings about that issue. You mentioned rugose leaves above, but again, from the get go, and I mean going back to the late 80's no one that I can remember has ever said that this variety has rugose leaves, which are fairly easy to ID; note the reference to the FAQ at GW above. Above you also said huge as in Gigantic at 8 ft which I can't resonate with since I grow almost all my varieties by sprawling, but all say the variety is indeterminate and 8 ft is well within limits for an indet. Why don't you take some pictures of the elaves at the bottom of the plant, in themiddle and at the top for I think that might help/
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July 19, 2011 | #17 |
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Hoping these pictures come through. First time trying to upload photos. I took my camera out of a nice cold house and the lens immediately frosted up outside. Had to keep wiping it off. Wow! It's hot!
I have other Potato Leafs in the garden so that is why I am puzzled on this one. It's quite a plant! Thanks again for all the help! You guys/gals are the best! |
July 19, 2011 | #18 |
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The leaves do look a little different from my PL. The first three photos kind of look PL, but the 4th not so much. It will be interesting to see what Carolyn says.
I am fairly certain I have the correct BRM. My tomatoes match up nicely with the photos on Tania's website. I purchased my seeds at www.mariseeds.com. And I almost forgot to mention that my plant is somewhere between 7 - 8 feet tall. |
July 19, 2011 | #19 |
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I'll go with the first three being PL, but not the fourth, as I see it.
Were the pictures taken at different areas on the same plant?
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July 21, 2011 | #21 |
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Do the tomatoes on your plant look similar to the tomatoes shown here: http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...Ridge_Mountain ?
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July 21, 2011 | #22 | |
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Yea, I've actually looked at that page quite a few times. The little green tomatoes on mine look like the little green tomatoes on that page. However, with about 45 different types this year, I kind of have a lot that look like that. I just got in from the yard again after taking another look at these leaves. The leaves are looking very regular to me. I have a Potato Leaf growing right next to it so it is easy to see that they are not the same. I should have some time later this afternoon and will clip a leaf and bring it inside and take pictures. It will be more clear than the other ones I took. I, of course, wanted a legit BRM but I really just want great tasting tomatoes. I'll give it another shot next year, I guess! I'd swear all my baby BRM's had potato leaf's this spring. I gave them all away except this one. |
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