What am I missing? - Page 2

newatthiskat · January 17, 2011

Atkinson is always on my list. If you put an additive of molassas in the mixture with it.. even more yummy. I am partial because it shares my last name and was created the same year I was born

. It was destiny. I am biased on it though. Your list looks great.
I had a seed disaster and had over 100 varities stocked and lost them all last year. I came back to tomatoville a few weeks ago and already I am trying to limit what I grow. Kath and Len(Tomato war 2011) are huge enablers LOL. I even have one to grow that I don't know how to pronounce because it is a very foreign language.

(Len giving me a great slam dunk) Suze was generous and sent me replacement Atkinson Seeds. Now we are all in the same boat again. This is just after I ordered 6 types from TGS and they are even in on it. They sent a free package!!!!

Kat

kath · January 17, 2011

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Originally Posted by newatthiskat

Kath and Len(Tomato war 2011) are huge enablers LOL. Now we are all in the same boat again.
Kat

Don't remember anyone putting up much of a fight...

RinTinTin · January 17, 2011

That's 'cause we're in denial.
(and, NO. Denial is not a river in Egypt.)

shlacm · January 18, 2011

A couple of observations... this place is FULL of enablers! I post my woes of having too many varieties to choose from, and now there are MORE varieties on their way!!!

And second... I think it's pretty clear where I got the information/recommendations that led me to these 90 varieties in the first place!!!

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You probably need Peacevine at your house

Yes, I'm sure that's exactly what I need, lol! Would you like to arrange an exchange?

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I didn't see a heart on there. Kosovo if you want a near sure thing or Donskoi if you are looking for really big and tasty in a heart.
I would swap Indian Stripe for Noire de Crimee or Paul Robeson because it is so much more productive and seems to be more disease tolerant.
If you want a super yellow cherry for the kids then get Sungold hybrid. It's super sweet and very productive.
How can you not grow Stump of the World or Limbaugh's Legacy.
I agree KBX is a fantastic gold.
NAR was super productive for me this year; maybe you need to do a little pruning on it and keep it to 2 or 3 main stems.
For insurance you might want to try Big Beef hybrid. It usually will make a good crop when most others won't.
If you need seed for Stump, Indian Stripe, Limbaugh's, or KBX, just PM me.

Ah yes, the hearts!!! I guess I have been a bit intimidated by them as it seems they can be a bit temperamental. But Gildo Pietroboni is a heart... other hearts I have seed for currently are Brad's Black Heart, Joe Thieneman's Australian Heart and Strawberry. I have a feeling I'll get some amazing heart variety from Carolyn's seed offer too.

And yes, Kosovo is on my "want" list... as are a (large) handful of other varieties that I would be insane to acquire at this point!

Interesting; I hadn't thought of switching one of those for Indian Stripe... though I have toyed with the idea of swapping it with Spudakee.... hmmmmm. Perhaps I could hold off on Paul Robeson...? I do have Stump of the World (as well as KBX & Indian Stripe) all on my REALLY want to grow THIS year list!

Limbaugh's Legacy.... urg! PM sent! I can't control myself.

I have Sungold F1 seeds too (shocking, right?)... so perhaps what I need is to re-think my little ones! Matt's is non-negotiable! But here are my other options, which I would like to select 2 (or 3?) from: Snow White Cherry, Yellow Submarine, Black Cherry, Coyote, Green Doctors Frosted, Isis Candy, Sungold F1, Jaune Flamee, and I may get Sara's Galapagos.

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Is there a plum/elongated/bomb shape on your list? It's one of my favorite types (I'm including Purple Russian and Opalka in this general shape category), I usually get great production, and I llke to grow several colors each year.

Opalka is high on the list of varieties trying to get included this year! I also have seed for San Marzano Redorta, Romeo Roma, and I believe I will be receiving Heidi as well...

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Every so often I run into someone who's grown only 3-4 tomato plants (for 3-4 people) and when I mention I grow 30-50 varieties a year, they look at me kind of funny and ask what I do with all the tomatoes. Then they start backing away...

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See...that's what I'm talkin' about...you'll find a way!

Yes... I'm trying to figure how much tuition money I can divert to tomatoes.... "dirt" is NOT cheap... nor are all the other building supplies!

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Atkinson is always on my list. If you put an additive of molassas in the mixture with it.. even more yummy. I am partial because it shares my last name and was created the same year I was born

. It was destiny. I am biased on it though. Your list looks great.

Good to know! It was a bonus/gift that came highly recommended from a "real" tomato person.

Several of the ones I am growing were selected for their names. But, I was careful to pick the "best" varieties that incorporated the right names.

dice · January 18, 2011

I think you could throw out Snow White Cherry, Coyote, and
Isis Candy as obvious frills not in the same league with the
others on your cherry tomato list. They may all be tasty to you,
but not as productive as Jaune Flamee, Black Cherry, Green
Doctors Frosted, Sungold, or Yellow Submarine.

Sara's Galapagos may end up a toss-up with Matt's Wild Cherry
(both small and super-productive).

Maybe you want to include one of those first three per year just
so that you have tried it and know what to expect from it before
they have all sat so long that the seeds are no longer viable,
and then grow two others from the sure thing group.

newatthiskat · January 18, 2011

Kath do you know how hard it was to not say "all" to your question? I am broken here but I was able to hold up LOL..some...I still wanted all but only "needed" some. What was I thinking AAAAAAALLLLLLLL. next time I will say it LOLOLOL

Kat

kath · January 19, 2011

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Originally Posted by newatthiskat

Kath do you know how hard it was to not say "all" to your question? I am broken here but I was able to hold up LOL..some...I still wanted all but only "needed" some. What was I thinking AAAAAAALLLLLLLL. next time I will say it LOLOLOL

Kat

You know, you're right, Kat...I didn't give you nearly enough credit. Actually, you displayed heroic willpower. Congratulations are in order, right? Or would you really rather have the seeds, hmmm???

newatthiskat · January 19, 2011

Kath you are evil

. I am sweating and lacking sleep over that decision. I think you and Len are in on this together, plotting how to break me.

shlacm-I have grown Brad's Black hart and Kosovo. Loved both. Brad's Black Heart was really great in salsa and tomato sauce. Gave it a nice flavor that you just can not buy. Now I am wanting more seeds for those too again. Stop me now this insanity must end!!!!

A girl can only take so much ..right???

Paul Robeson did not produce very many tomatoes the one year I grew it. Black Krim on the other hand was absolutely fabulous. That is until it got run over by the lawnmower. Opalka had the best spot in the garden but BER hit it so bad that It only frustrated me growing it. I will try it again sometime with improvements to my raised bed. Kellogs breakfast was a great late season producer. it had a tendency to get sunburned more than the other tomatoes for some reason. Black Cherry, Sungold, Isis candy and snow white were really good cherries in my garden in the past. Lillians yellow heirloom was one of my very favorite tomatoes. NAR had a great taste but for some reason was not productive as others. Now one you really need is Pineapple! Need seeds?LOLOLOLOL

Kat

WVTomatoMan · January 19, 2011

To decide what you're missing perhaps you should asses your needs and/or desires. For example if you're going to do a lot of canning do you have enough canners on your list? If you're going to make a lot of sauce do you have enough good sauce making tomatoes? If you're going for variety of color are you covered (you aren't BTW)? Another thing I have done is do themes. Like one year I did blacks, another year WV varieties. Something to consider.

Last year was not a good growing year weather wise in these parts. I didn't get any tomatoes that weighed at least 2 pounds. And that just yanks my crank.

So, my theme for this year is big fruited varieties.

Good luck.

Randy

gryffin · February 13, 2011

I know this is an older thread, but reading it makes me feel a lot more normal. I planned on 12 plants or so for 2011 (which is what I ended up with in 2010 after planning on 8). I went out and bought seed for 7 varieties. After spending some time here over the last few weeks, I have seeds for more than 40 and am trying to figure out how many plants I can get away with and the cheapest way to obtain/make containers for them all. I'm getting sneaky too- I'm figuring out how I can plant some varieties at the barn where I have my horse as well as at my parents' house so I can try even more different types in 2011...

kath · February 13, 2011

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Originally Posted by gryffin

I know this is an older thread, but reading it makes me feel a lot more normal. I planned on 12 plants or so for 2011 (which is what I ended up with in 2010 after planning on 8). I went out and bought seed for 7 varieties. After spending some time here over the last few weeks, I have seeds for more than 40 and am trying to figure out how many plants I can get away with and the cheapest way to obtain/make containers for them all. I'm getting sneaky too- I'm figuring out how I can plant some varieties at the barn where I have my horse as well as at my parents' house so I can try even more different types in 2011...

...and so it begins. You'll have over 100 very, very soon...and then 200...

January 17, 2011	#16
newatthiskat Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: texas Posts: 1,451	Reply Atkinson is always on my list. If you put an additive of molassas in the mixture with it.. even more yummy. I am partial because it shares my last name and was created the same year I was born . It was destiny. I am biased on it though. Your list looks great. I had a seed disaster and had over 100 varities stocked and lost them all last year. I came back to tomatoville a few weeks ago and already I am trying to limit what I grow. Kath and Len(Tomato war 2011) are huge enablers LOL. I even have one to grow that I don't know how to pronounce because it is a very foreign language. (Len giving me a great slam dunk) Suze was generous and sent me replacement Atkinson Seeds. Now we are all in the same boat again. This is just after I ordered 6 types from TGS and they are even in on it. They sent a free package!!!! Kat

January 18, 2011	#20
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	I think you could throw out Snow White Cherry, Coyote, and Isis Candy as obvious frills not in the same league with the others on your cherry tomato list. They may all be tasty to you, but not as productive as Jaune Flamee, Black Cherry, Green Doctors Frosted, Sungold, or Yellow Submarine. Sara's Galapagos may end up a toss-up with Matt's Wild Cherry (both small and super-productive). Maybe you want to include one of those first three per year just so that you have tried it and know what to expect from it before they have all sat so long that the seeds are no longer viable, and then grow two others from the sure thing group. __________________ -- alias Last edited by dice; January 19, 2011 at 03:44 AM. Reason: clarity

January 18, 2011	#21
newatthiskat Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: texas Posts: 1,451	Reply Kath do you know how hard it was to not say "all" to your question? I am broken here but I was able to hold up LOL..some...I still wanted all but only "needed" some. What was I thinking AAAAAAALLLLLLLL. next time I will say it LOLOLOL Kat

January 19, 2011	#23
newatthiskat Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: texas Posts: 1,451	Reply Kath you are evil . I am sweating and lacking sleep over that decision. I think you and Len are in on this together, plotting how to break me. shlacm-I have grown Brad's Black hart and Kosovo. Loved both. Brad's Black Heart was really great in salsa and tomato sauce. Gave it a nice flavor that you just can not buy. Now I am wanting more seeds for those too again. Stop me now this insanity must end!!!! A girl can only take so much ..right??? Paul Robeson did not produce very many tomatoes the one year I grew it. Black Krim on the other hand was absolutely fabulous. That is until it got run over by the lawnmower. Opalka had the best spot in the garden but BER hit it so bad that It only frustrated me growing it. I will try it again sometime with improvements to my raised bed. Kellogs breakfast was a great late season producer. it had a tendency to get sunburned more than the other tomatoes for some reason. Black Cherry, Sungold, Isis candy and snow white were really good cherries in my garden in the past. Lillians yellow heirloom was one of my very favorite tomatoes. NAR had a great taste but for some reason was not productive as others. Now one you really need is Pineapple! Need seeds?LOLOLOLOL Kat

January 17, 2011	#18
RinTinTin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 581	That's 'cause we're in denial. (and, NO. Denial is not a river in Egypt.)

January 19, 2011	#24
WVTomatoMan Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: West Virginia - Zone 6 Posts: 594	To decide what you're missing perhaps you should asses your needs and/or desires. For example if you're going to do a lot of canning do you have enough canners on your list? If you're going to make a lot of sauce do you have enough good sauce making tomatoes? If you're going for variety of color are you covered (you aren't BTW)? Another thing I have done is do themes. Like one year I did blacks, another year WV varieties. Something to consider. Last year was not a good growing year weather wise in these parts. I didn't get any tomatoes that weighed at least 2 pounds. And that just yanks my crank. So, my theme for this year is big fruited varieties. Good luck. Randy

February 13, 2011	#25
gryffin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 229	I know this is an older thread, but reading it makes me feel a lot more normal. I planned on 12 plants or so for 2011 (which is what I ended up with in 2010 after planning on 8). I went out and bought seed for 7 varieties. After spending some time here over the last few weeks, I have seeds for more than 40 and am trying to figure out how many plants I can get away with and the cheapest way to obtain/make containers for them all. I'm getting sneaky too- I'm figuring out how I can plant some varieties at the barn where I have my horse as well as at my parents' house so I can try even more different types in 2011...