Do you know the name of this striped paste type?

[Qweniden]

Looks alot like my Striped Roman

[lurley]

It looks like the speckled/striped roman I grew last year. Mine were also smaller than the seed catalog described so I was disappointed but it was a very hot and dry year here so that might have contributed.

[Indyartist]

I think "Striped Roman" is what I have, I'll put an * by it but I'll grow them this year and post my results. I really appreciate the input.

[Qweniden]

Im thinking about it and I think the plant I had was actually named speckled Roman.

[GunnarSK]

I have seeds labeled "S. Roman" and there is no indication, if "S." is short for "Speckled" or "Striped". The seeds are not from a TomatoVillian or a commercial source, and Tom Wagner didn't list any "Roman" at his new site, although the striped/speckled one is a stabilised Banana Legs cross to Antique Roman, so the stripes are "ultimately" from Green Zebra.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by GunnarSK

I have seeds labeled "S. Roman" and there is no indication, if "S." is short for "Speckled" or "Striped". The seeds are not from a TomatoVillian or a commercial source, and Tom Wagner didn't list any "Roman" at his new site, although the striped/speckled one is a stabilised Banana Legs cross to Antique Roman, so the stripes are "ultimately" from Green Zebra.

Gunnar, As you probably know John Swenson bred both Striped and Speckled Roman but changed the name of one of them, and they are the same, but exist under both names.

I don't see why Tom would list either one or any of the other ones that had Green Zebra as part of the parentage. A lot of Brad Gates varieties also have Green Zebra as part of the parentage and I don't remember if Tom listed any of Brad's varieties, he may have since he visited Brad a year or so ago, but I didn't check his list. And he did note that he listed varieties that had nothing to do with him personally as in his breeding them.

It turns out that Green Zebra just happens to cross easily so there are many varieties that appear to have it in the parentage of those varieties.

[bughunter99]

My Striped Romans averaged 3-5 ounces each last year according to my records. Also, the foliage of the plant when young was annoyingly wispy.

[Indyartist]

I found the seed starting tray I used in 2008 which had all my varieties marked on it and now I remember how I've ended up with this tomato, whatever it should be called. I purchased seeds from Tomato Growers Supply for "Striped Cavern" which I grew and that is what all the photos are of. It is obviously not a true "Striped Cavern", I was disappointed . I do not know if the seeds I received did not grow true to type or if there was a mix up with labeling but my paste result does not look quite like "Striped Roman" and other than it's coloring looks nothing like "Striped Cavern". I seem to have a variety in tomato limbo. Maybe I can name it "Limbo" and quit my head scratching.

[RinTinTin]

@ bughunter:
Those striped romas are beautiful looking fruits.

[GunnarSK]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

I don't see why Tom would list either one or any of the other ones that had Green Zebra as part of the parentage. A lot of Brad Gates varieties also have Green Zebra as part of the parentage and I don't remember if Tom listed any of Brad's varieties, he may have since he visited Brad a year or so ago, but I didn't check his list. And he did note that he listed varieties that had nothing to do with him personally as in his breeding them. .

I know, but I've seen, that Tom has many Green Zebras and Greensleeves/Green Sausages (probably in newer versions) in his shop, but I have more interest in his potatoes (which are sort of unique), so I didn't look carefully at all tomatoes.

[Indyartist]

mI started this post quite awhile ago because I found seeds and photos of a tomato that I could not remember the variety of. I later found an old (2008) marked seed tray which identified it as "Striped Cavern", so this led me to think my seeds did not grow true as I expected a "cavernous", bell pepper shaped, semi-hollow tomato which would be ideal for stuffing. I have since found on the Rutgers NJAES web-site a listing for "Striped Cavern" with a photo that looks identical to what my plants produced.
I'm now just simply confused. Here is a link to what I expected, http://www.seedsavers.org/Details.aspx?itemNo=448

and here is the Rutgers NJAES site that has the same tomato as I actually have:
http://njaes.rutgers.edu/tomato-vari...Striped+Cavern

Any ideas on this?

[carolyn137]

SSE is correct and NJ is wrong.

http://www.google.com/images?q=strip...&start=20&sa=N

Here's page after page of Striped Cavern pictures from Google IMAGES. And not all are correct for the variety. Look at the ones that have cut sections showing the empty locules and usually have a picture of the blocky fruit shape in the same picture.

Clearly there's some wrong seeds out there for this variety and that isn't all that surprising, really. But the better sites, my words, have the correct pictures IMO.



Hope that helps.