Not really thrilled with Matt's Wild Cherry......

[raindrops27]

Carolyn, where do you recommend buying the seeds you just listed. Thanks.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by raindrops27

Carolyn, where do you recommend buying the seeds you just listed. Thanks.

Green Zebra Cherry, which is NOT derived from Green Z, which I don't like

Green Doctors or Green Doctors Frosted

Gardener's Delight, aka Sugar Lump at some places

Dr. Carolyn, ahem

Camp Joy, aka Chadwick's Cherry


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The first three I've been offering seeds for free for an SASE here in my annual seed offer here at Tville.

But I'm pretty sure that GZ Cherry is also offered at Gleckler's and maybe Jeff Casey's site as well.

You can check Tania's tomato data base website to confirm that if you like.

Both Gleckler's as well as Jeff Casey's site offer BOTH Green Doctors as well as Green Doctors Frosted and perhaps other sites, again, check Tania's site for ones I may have forgotten.

Gardener's Delight, aka Sugar Lump I also started offering for free in my seed offer of Jan, 2011. And there are TONS of places that offer this one.

Lastly Dr. Carolyn, well, you'd think the person would have seeds around. but she doesn't so had to go to tania's to check on that:

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Dr._Carolyn

Yes, lots of places including some here at Tville who own seed sites including, Tania, Jeff Casey, Carol Knapp and others.

I know Joe Bratka well, he who bred Snow White, Rabbit, Ghost, all so called white cherries, as well as many other varieties and I could include Snow White as well, many got to know it when it was sent out free from a seed site as a bonus.

Mirabelle Blanche is another so called white one but I think if you want to try the so called white ones, none of which are white, you might also consider the variety Mirabell which is a thum sized pale yellow that I also find to be sweet and very prolific.

Finally, Camp Joy, aka Chadwicks Cherry and I know there are again, lots of places that offer that one as well so I'll jsut put up Tania's site for you.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Camp_Joy

I'm surprised that not more places are offering it and while there are no listings for 2011 I jsut looked in the Sandhill Preservation catalog and it is listed, along with a slew of other cherry varieties of which I'd mention the following in terms of some sweetness although other sites also list lots of cherries as well.

So here are the others from Sandhill that I think are worthy of consideration:

Dr. Carolyn and Dr. Carolyn pink; they list both
Camp Joy
Cluj
Coyote
Hawaiian
Mexican Cocktail
Mirabell

.. well that's enough for now and Tania also lists lots of cherries as well, just go to the home page from the link I gave you above to see how to search for this and that if you don't already have the link.

I think I forgot to mention commercial sites where you can get Gardeners Delight if not from someone offering it here in the Seed Forums starting in the Fall thru early Spring, so check out Tania's on those commercial sources if you wish.

[Mojo]

Originally Posted by feldon30

I consider Matt's Wild Cherry a novelty. Not very sweet, and so small as to not even register on the palate. And once you grow them, you'll never be able to get rid of them.

True story. I am still getting volunteers four years later. I would have it in a container, if I ever had it again, away from everything else. You could toss them in a salad but the pain is in the picking, so much work for the reward. Meh...

[feldon30]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

And since taste is personal and perceptual

I have a friend who doesn't like ANY dark tomatoes. If we ever met in public, I might pretend I don't know him. (just kidding!)

[starsevol]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

First I've heard of that.

Look, some like it, some don't so if someone doesn't like it they just move on to other cherries that taste better to them and in this case Beth wants a sweeter cherry.

I myself prefer a cherry that isn't all about sweetness but I do like Sungold F1 if truth be told.

And since taste is personal and perceptual what's one person's sweet assess ment doesn't resonate with some others and all b'c of al the variables involved.

I can only share with you what seem sweeter than others, for me.

Green Zebra Cherry, which is NOT derived from Green Z, which I don't like

Green Doctors or Green Doctors Frosted

Gardener's Delight, aka Sugar Lump at some places

Dr. Carolyn, ahem

Camp Joy, aka Chadwick's Cherry

I could list a lot of cherries that don't taste sweet to me but that wouldn't really be helpful, I know.
Well, there's a few, but each person has to make up their own mind about taste based on ALL the variables, which are many, b'c it's not unusual to have the fruits of a variety taste a bit differently in any any particular different seasons.

And if I wanted a wee fruited one I'd grow Sara's Galapagos which I do like much better than Matt's Wild.

Carolyn, thank you so much!! I wish I had the space to try everything out there, but figured I would post this in search of the sweet stuff. I have gardeners delight, I bought them from Remy a few weeks back. I also bought Remy Rouge from her, as the description states they are as sweet as sungolds. I do want the others in time too, I will keep my eyes open for people who want trades. I don't have much to offer, but I do have a nice variety of lettuce and various greens.

[raindrops27]

Carolyn,

Thank you so much, for the in depth answer. I appreciate it very much. I will definitely have to try those you mentioned.

Melissa

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by starsevol

Carolyn, thank you so much!! I wish I had the space to try everything out there, but figured I would post this in search of the sweet stuff. I have gardeners delight, I bought them from Remy a few weeks back. I also bought Remy Rouge from her, as the description states they are as sweet as sungolds. I do want the others in time too, I will keep my eyes open for people who want trades. I don't have much to offer, but I do have a nice variety of lettuce and various greens.

You don't reeally need anything to trade with since many of us make seed offers later in the year in the Trade seed subforum, the other one being the wanted subforum and specify NO TRADES wanted; seeds free for an SASE.

As a matter of fact I'm one who never trades seeds, with few exceptions, and I don't trade seeds for good reasons, at least good reasons for me after having grown about 3,000 varieties and doing it since the mid-80's and looking at feedback about traded seeds at several message sites for several decades.

[starsevol]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

You don't reeally need anything to trade with since many of us make seed offers later in the year in the Trade seed subforum, the other one being the wanted subforum and specify NO TRADES wanted; seeds free for an SASE.

As a matter of fact I'm one who never trades seeds, with few exceptions, and I don't trade seeds for good reasons, at least good reasons for me after having grown about 3,000 varieties and doing it since the mid-80's and looking at feedback about traded seeds at several message sites for several decades.

I really appreciate the information. This forum is really really helpful.
OH, I love your book btw! I bought it before joining here. Not only do I want sweet sweet cherries, but I want to try every one of those 100 varieties too!!

[Sun City Linda]

I have learned SO much on this and other tomato forums, especially from Carolyn's posts. Infact I was just thinking about her and how happy I am to have her book. I had tacos for lunch with salad and Earl of Edgecomb tomatoes which were just great! Thanks Carolyn! LInda