Lorraine Beauty?

[Tania]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

If you like highly ribbed varieties you can also look at Pink Accordian and Zapotec Pleated, aka Zapotec.

But that's not why I posted.

Tania, I could swear that I've seen Beauty of Lorraine listed in the SSE Yearbook years ago and perhaps not the same as the Lottridge one that Ake was distributing and Neil grew.

I refuse to use the online SSE Yearbook listings but if you do and have a few minutes could you see if anything comes up for Beauty of Lorraine? I've been looking through some older Yearbooks but am tired of doing so.

There is a Lottridge in the UK but Lorraine is in France.

Hi Carolyn,
I did a search through all the SSE Yearbooks since 1988, and nothing came up for 'Beauty of Lorraine', but there was lots of hits for 'Beauty of Lottringa'. And yes, Ake listed 'Beauty of Lottringa' since 1998.

EDIT: sorry , I goofed up - I searched for 'Lorraine' and not 'Loraine'.

So the Beauty of Loraine was listed in 1995-1997 by Craig L.

[Tania]

...as Neil mentioned already.

Sorry Neil, I did not see your post until I refreshed the page!

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Tania

...as Neil mentioned already.

Sorry Neil, I did not see your post until I refreshed the page!

Not only did Neil find it but as you can see, Craig told me that I too had grown it.

I don't remember growing it but I did remember it being listed in one of the older Yearbooks.

But thanks for looking for it Tania.

Edited to add the following. Lorraine, spelled that way, is in France so I've always wondered if Loraine is not the correct spelling for this variety and it got changed somewhere through the years via a typo or ????

[Tania]

I am also wondering where the 'Lottringa' word came from (in 'Beauty of Lottringa')

Btw, googling it, I found an old thread at GW about Beauty of Lottringa: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...202826970.html

[Tania]

Interestingly Luc Fichot's photos did not show Beauty of Lottriga as a hollow tomato:

http://ventmarin.free.fr/passion_tom..._lottringa.htm

So maybe after all I did have a correct seed??? Mine looked similar. Or perhaps Luc had wrong seed? Not sure.

[retiree]

I just pulled out the "Off The Vine" Vol.3 Number 2 Dec. 1996 and there was an

article by Craig L. "A Poor First Impression" and he said "Other reds that were not

memorable in any way were Sasha's Altai, Perestroika, Oregon Spring and the old

commercial varieties Essex Wonder, Excelsior, Early Ruby and BEAUTY OF

LORRAINE."

Where did the time go? Along with many varieties mentioned!

Neil G. (Canada)

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Tania

I am also wondering where the 'Lottringa' word came from (in 'Beauty of Lottringa')

Btw, googling it, I found an old thread at GW about Beauty of Lottringa: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...202826970.html

http://www.behindthename.com/name/lorraine

I looked for the German name for Lorraine and look what I found, yes, darn close to Lottringa.

Neil, I think after you said where the variety was in the SSE yearbook Craig said yes, got it and didn't like it and then told me I'd grown it and I said if I'd been impressed I would have remembered it.

And I still have that big box of OTV's in the back room and some day, maybe when the snow flies, I might be interested in looking at them again. Craig and I keep discussing about updating and republishing them but I think right now he wants to concentrate on the book he's been talking about writing for many years now.

Tania, as to data bases and varieties pictured, no site is ever going to be perfect despite the amount of time that folks spend on it b'c as you know, not all seeds are what they should be and not all information turns out to be true.

[Tania]

Originally Posted by retiree

I just pulled out the "Off The Vine" Vol.3 Number 2 Dec. 1996 and there was an

article by Craig L. "A Poor First Impression" and he said "Other reds that were not

memorable in any way were Sasha's Altai, Perestroika, Oregon Spring and the old

commercial varieties Essex Wonder, Excelsior, Early Ruby and BEAUTY OF

LORRAINE."

Where did the time go? Along with many varieties mentioned!

Neil G. (Canada)

Neil,

Thank you for digging up the old OTV issue! It is interesting that out of the Craig's 'not memorable in any way' tomatoes I find Oregon Spring and Sasha'a Altai quite good. Perhaps it is my 'special' soil mix in the containers I grow these tomatoes? Or our 'special' PNW climate?

[carolyn137]

Tania, when you posted Happy Birthday to Barbee you saw my post to her saying that I was having a hard time keeping up here. And then you said you were as well.

So what's my point?

Did you see my post above where I found out that the German word for Lorraine is darn close to Lottridge, as in almost the same?

it's so seldom that I make such an earthshaking discovery,, and since you had asked about the name I just wanted to direct you to that link.