Burnt edges...what causes this? - Page 2

huntsman · October 25, 2011

@ Fusion power -

Thanks for the input. I missed your post earlier...

lakelady · October 25, 2011

I nearly killed some plants last summer doing a foliar spray (as per directions) in the sun...duh! Things outdoors seem to recover so much better for me at least.

Should people need to further compost bat and seabird guano? Mine is really stinky and I thought with composting somehow it would smell "sweeter". Maybe I should bury the bag for next year...

dice · October 26, 2011

Lactobacillus inoculant is said to help with odors from composts and
manures:
http://www.ehow.com/how_5631274_make...-microbes.html

huntsman · October 26, 2011

Interesting page dice, but what on earth do they mean by 'imported ' rice?? What's imported in one country is local in another...

dice · October 27, 2011

I have no idea why imported rice would be necessary. (Perhaps they simply meant "do not use American quick rice that cooks in a very
short time, because it is lacking in what we use the rice for in this
recipe for concentrated lactobacillus inoculant.")

Once you have it, I think it can just be diluted and sprayed on compost
or manure that has an obnoxious reek. The lactobacillus should find food
there and spread through it naturally if it is moist.

RayR · October 27, 2011

If I understand the culturing process correctly, the rice has to be unprocessed since it will contain a variety of bacteria including the Lactobacilli that have found their way naturally onto the kernels and then into the rice water. The milk is the food source to encourage fast growth of Lactobacilli which feed on lactose, the sugar in milk. Lactobacilli then excrete lactic acid which creates a low PH environment that kills off other types of bacteria that can't tolerate acidic conditions and/or probably a lack of a natural food source. That leave a nearly pure culture of lactobacillus.

huntsman · October 28, 2011

Well, I'll give this a shot using local rice, but I have no way of knowing if it's processed or not.

My compost heap is smelling a little, so the timing is good. Thanks!

lakelady · October 30, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by dice

Lactobacillus inoculant is said to help with odors from composts and
manures:
http://www.ehow.com/how_5631274_make...-microbes.html

Well that was interesting...actually I've seen Chinese rice at the asian market pretty cheaply, so I am assuming that is "imported rice".

Another stinky thing for my kids to complain about, lol...

beefyboy · November 1, 2011

nothing works better than my rabbit manure from my bugzy!! lol straight on the top 4 inches thick and the tomatoes go crazy. Never have to age it and goes from cage to plant!!

October 25, 2011	#17
lakelady Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: northern NJ zone 6b Posts: 1,862	I nearly killed some plants last summer doing a foliar spray (as per directions) in the sun...duh! Things outdoors seem to recover so much better for me at least. Should people need to further compost bat and seabird guano? Mine is really stinky and I thought with composting somehow it would smell "sweeter". Maybe I should bury the bag for next year... __________________ Antoniette

October 26, 2011	#18
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	Lactobacillus inoculant is said to help with odors from composts and manures: http://www.ehow.com/how_5631274_make...-microbes.html __________________ -- alias

October 27, 2011	#20
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	I have no idea why imported rice would be necessary. (Perhaps they simply meant "do not use American quick rice that cooks in a very short time, because it is lacking in what we use the rice for in this recipe for concentrated lactobacillus inoculant.") Once you have it, I think it can just be diluted and sprayed on compost or manure that has an obnoxious reek. The lactobacillus should find food there and spread through it naturally if it is moist. __________________ -- alias

October 25, 2011	#16
huntsman Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa - GrowZone 9 Posts: 595	@ Fusion power - Thanks for the input. I missed your post earlier...

October 27, 2011	#21
RayR Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cheektowaga, NY Posts: 2,466	If I understand the culturing process correctly, the rice has to be unprocessed since it will contain a variety of bacteria including the Lactobacilli that have found their way naturally onto the kernels and then into the rice water. The milk is the food source to encourage fast growth of Lactobacilli which feed on lactose, the sugar in milk. Lactobacilli then excrete lactic acid which creates a low PH environment that kills off other types of bacteria that can't tolerate acidic conditions and/or probably a lack of a natural food source. That leave a nearly pure culture of lactobacillus.

October 28, 2011	#22
huntsman Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa - GrowZone 9 Posts: 595	Well, I'll give this a shot using local rice, but I have no way of knowing if it's processed or not. My compost heap is smelling a little, so the timing is good. Thanks!

November 1, 2011	#24
beefyboy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pt. Charlotte fl Posts: 330	nothing works better than my rabbit manure from my bugzy!! lol straight on the top 4 inches thick and the tomatoes go crazy. Never have to age it and goes from cage to plant!!