Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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April 18, 2012 | #16 | |
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April 18, 2012 | #17 |
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tjg911,
I am really looking forward to eating my first Prue. I'm hoping my plants will be productive. If the plants don't have a tendency to drop blossoms, they will be productive. They have a lot of blossoms on and I hope they set fruit. I haven't read any comments in this thread about Granny's Heart. I seem to remember some good reports last year. I may be the grower who reports on it this year. Ted |
April 18, 2012 | #18 | |
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There already are some folks who have reported on it at the end of the above thread. And you can see how many people got seeds from Bark, and I'm sure many are growing it out this summer. In my annual seed offer this past Jan I sent out "tons" of seed for it and reports back in my germination thread are ongoing and later in the summer I always put up another thread asking how the varieties worked out for folks. I grew it last summer and thought it was excellent. I could list many hearts here but I know that there already are other threads with the same topic, so won't. Ja, I'm a heart lover, tomatoes that is, from way long ago. and I think that someone said they got some from Sportsguy and I think I recognize some of them as ones I sent him.
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April 18, 2012 | #19 | |
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I will pick one of the higher producers next year. |
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April 18, 2012 | #20 | |
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April 19, 2012 | #21 |
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This year no new hearts for me just old favs! Thats the way I will roll this year. I bounced Kosovo from the must grow list to re visit some old friends named Anna and Ukrainian. Orange Strawberry will stay for another year as she tastes so good grown in fast soils, yummy yummy. And last but not least is Lilah's Heart that i'm working on that is a cross between Hungarian Heart and Olena Ukrainian. The selections I've made over the last 2 seasons have been excellent! Good luck everybody with those hearts!
Damon p.s. I still have yet to try BBH |
April 19, 2012 | #22 |
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This is the time of year I start thinking about what to plant next year.
Here is a list of hearts I have seeds for or seeds that are on their way. 2013 Tomatoes G- Gleckler's h - Heirloom Seeds T - Tatiana's Fish Lake Oxheart (New) Trade German Red Strawberry – Heart (New) h Granny's Heart (New) Carolyn Male Homer's German Oxheart (New) G Hungarian Heart (New) h Indiana Red – Heart (New) G Jefferson Giant – Heart (New) h Sylvan Guame – Heart (New) G Ukrainian Heart (New) T Wes – Heart (New) G
Volovie Ukho – Heart (New) T |
April 19, 2012 | #23 |
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Carolyn,
Thank you for the link to Barkeaters thread on Granny's Heart dating back to 2010. I remember following the thread now. His comment that "Granny" originated the cultivar by crossing a beef steak and plum variety reminded me of a question I asked in my first post starting this thread. I'll ask it again since I doubt if the original beefsteak or plum shaped parentage of Granny's Heart had the typical wispy foliage of hearts. What is the genetic relationship of wispy foliage and heart shaped tomatoes? I would understand the genetic relationship of wispy foliage heart varieties if they all descended from common parentage, but Granny's Heart seemed to not descend from the parentage of other hearts. The tomatoville member who traded some Granny's heart seed with me, mentioned he sometimes has PL seedlings germinate from Granny's Heart seed. His original seed was provided by Barkeater. Ted |
April 19, 2012 | #24 |
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Tracy, I'm not saying Brads Black Heart won't do well for you. I was really looking forward to trying it last year and planted several and none produced any fruit. It seemed to be very susceptible to fusarium which is the bane of my garden.
Since you live where the temperature is even hotter than here you might want to try varieties that do fairly well in the high heat. I have grown two hearts that have set fruit well in very high temperatures because I usually set out plants right through July. Last year Fish Lake Oxheart and Kosovo set fruit during the hottest months of the summer. Another one that does pretty good during the hot weather is Linnie's Oxheart. |
April 19, 2012 | #25 |
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I am using seed of my plant from last year, I got them a few years ago from Helpfull garden website, Brad did send some to them to spread around this years also. I did buy a few of Brads new ones 2 months ago, gemanition was great so far Trenton's Tiger, and the flame one don't remember then name.
Here is Brads B hearts |
April 19, 2012 | #26 | |
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I'm not sure it really matters if something sets well in the heat in AZ. Once it gets hot here, it gets so hot that nothing can set. The challenge is getting fruit set quickly before the heat sets in because there is simply nothing that can set when the average temperature is over 105 and the nighttime temps start staying above 85-90. Sometimes, I think I'd be better off getting tomatoes that are short season and set in cooler temperatures because it goes from cool nights in the 50s to suddenly being so blasted hot in May. We just don't get much spring here. Last year, what fruit I did get was mostly first, some second truss and it was badly cat faced. I do still like to try the tomatoes that set in heat and had some success last year with Arkansas Traveler. I also had some fruit set when the monsoon started with Cherokee Purple, Striped Roman and Reisentraube. |
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April 19, 2012 | #27 |
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Tracy if you are looking for hearts that set fast then you really need to try Fish Lake Oxheart. It made faster than over 100 varieties last year. The earliest FLO made in was 55 days. Another that has produced very quickly is Kosovo which usually takes about 60 days.
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April 19, 2012 | #28 | |
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Isn't Anna Russian considered a heart, and a good producer? Or is it just a moderate producer of amazing tomatoes? j |
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April 20, 2012 | #29 | |
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There's also Russian #117, a double red heart, and well, I could make a long list of ones I've grown and liked, and to be honest there are few heart varieties that I didn't think much of, but I know there are other threads here where I and others have made such lists of ones we liked. http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...haped_Tomatoes Above is a list of heart varieties from Tania's site and for those who are interested it's a great way to find yet more heart varieties.
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April 20, 2012 | #30 |
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I only went with three hearts this year. I love hearts but so many of them have longer seasons. Almost all my selections this year only made the cut if they were mid-season producers.
Hays Anna Russian Sherry's Sweet Heart Stacy |
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