Will the real Costoluto Genovese please stand up!

[Tania]

I grew this tomato from different seed sources - the first one was from Territorial Seeds, and it did not come as fluted as I was expecting, so I kept looking.

The ones from Thompson & Morgan were correct (I do not have a picture of ripe fruit) - flattened and ribbed.

Re Costoluto Fiorentino - I am still at loss with this one, as I tried it twice from different seed sources and both times got smooth fruits. Not sure if this is correct for this variety - I was expecting something more ribbed and ruffled. My seed source was Seeds of Italy, so I was a bit puzzled at the outcome. But my seed trading partner, Klaus-Peter Schurz, seemed to be able to secure seeds for the ribbed one. I will ask him what his source was.

[Tania]

Interesting, I just looked at TGSC website - they offer both Genovese and Fiorentino types -

Their Costoluto Fiorentino is more smooth - http://www.tomatogrowers.com/COSTOLU...ductinfo/4974/, similar to what I had

And Genovese is ribbed and flattened - http://www.tomatogrowers.com/COSTOLU...ductinfo/3747/

[dice]

I have read brokenbar's description of Costuluto Genovese
as a great sauce tomato several times, but I had the impression
that the Costoluto Genovese seeds that she distributed last
winter was a newer version than the cultivar that has been
known in North America by that name for decades:

Costoluto Genovese Sel Velente

(Described as "an improved Costoluto Genovese".)

I cannot see that it looked much different than pictures
of the Costoluto Genovese that I had seen before. It was
a little sweeter fresh than I expected from other people's
descriptions of Costoluto Genovese, but not what I consider
a "sweet tomato". About like the Early Goliath F1s I grew a
couple of years ago.

Did she mean that the cultivar was straight from Italy or
the seeds themselves? (Were they extra seeds that she
purchased or seeds that she saved?) I grew two plants,
fruit, plant, and dtm were identical. If they were her saved
seeds from the above cultivar, it seems to be a stable OP.

[PNW_D]

An older related thread

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=10049

check out last post - seems there is much variation out there

Tania - I received Costoluto Fiorentino Novoli from Roger some years ago - have never grown it out - if you are interested in a grow out comparison please do let me know

[chiefbeaz]

Originally Posted by Father'sDaughter

I grew Brokenbar's Costoluto Genovese seeds this year and got tomatoes much like what you described.

They actually looked very similar to Russo Sicilian Togeta which I also grew from Mary's seeds. While the fruits looked similar, the plants behaved differently with RST putting on more fruit much earlier and I had my first ripe RST almost two weeks before the first ripe CG.

I too remember her comment about her CG tomatoes being different, but I've never grown them before so I can't say how mine compared to the "typical" CG. Regardless, they were great for sauce and drying and will be back in my garden next year.

My Costoluto Genovese looked like the picture in Tom's post and I also agree with Father's Daughter that they looked a lot like Russo Sicilian Togeta except larger. Both my varieties I grew were from seeds from Broken Bar. Both were great tomatos and will be back in my garden this year

[chiefbeaz]

I searched back and found the original quote that Broken bar gave when she offered the seeds


Costoluto Genovese

My strain appears to be larger than others report. Mine average 10 to 14 ounces. NOT a good "eating out of hand" tomato but SUPERIOR sauce. I have grown this tomato for years and years and my seed originally came from a friend in Italy. Makes the best dammed (sic) marinara sauce in the world.

[chiefbeaz]

Originally Posted by clkeiper

What is the difference between "costoluto geneovese" and "costoluto fiorintino"?

A QUOTE FROM A POST FROM CAROLYN 127

Costoluto means ribbed, and the various Costolutos are named for the various areas they come from, such as Fiorentino ( Florence), Genovese ( Genoa) and others

[montanamato]

I grew CG from shepherds seeds ( late 80's) before Renee Shepherd formed Renees seeds....We canned thoudands of quarts ( really) in the years we grew it....Mine were never elongated, always heavily ribbed and more orangey-red than crimson red....Seedy and thinnish skinned, but cooked into amazing sauce....Texture was a bit mealy for fresh eating, but a better cooking tomato I never met...

Jeanne

[montanamato]

this should be the go to tomato for drought and heat area as it laughs at heat...

[Dak]

Anyone have any extra seeds they might share from Brokenbar's Costoluto?

[Sun City Linda]

I do Dak, PM me your address.

[Dak]

PM'd Linda, whoohooo! What a friendly board this is!

[zeroma]

http://www.tastefulgarden.com/store/...ino-24p484.htm