Greenhouse in Japan - Page 2

Scope · January 10, 2013

Thank you. Doug, Taru is kind of a hydroponic system. This is good for growing tomatoes. I grow musk melons and cucumbers with this system. But they seems that they need much more root cavity. So their yield is not so good.

Deborah, Have you grow Lovely Sakura!? I grow this variety every year. The breeder Mikadokyouwa Seed in Japan says Lovely Sakura is one of premium cherry tomato. I'm using this only in greenhouse .So I have no idea about stability at the open field. But we can have fairly sweet and beautiful cherry tomatoes. Is this released in your country?

dice · January 16, 2013

Sakura is sold in the US. You can use this custom Google search
to search the WWW for available plants and seeds:
http://www.google.com/custom?num=50&...%3Aad-kgp1hr6o

I usually provide "tomato name" for search terms. Here are
the results for "tomato Sakura", using that search form,
for example:
http://www.google.com/custom?num=50&...ra&btnG=Search

How do you pollenate the plants in your green house?

Deborah · January 16, 2013

No, I have never heard of it until you mentioned it here.

Scope · January 25, 2013

Thank you dice,
But I have no idea that Sakura and Lovely Sakura are the same variety. There are some varieties name of Sakura is applied. I've run out the seeds of Lovely Sakura. A few days ago, I got them. I've checked back of the package. Seeds were produced in France. This is just my prediction, originally they are French F1 variety, and then renamed as Lovely Sakura?

Thank you Deborah,
Oh.... I'm sorry,it was my reading error. I haven't tested Lovely Sakura at field. They are recommended in the greenhouse. I'll try a few plants at field this year.

Deborah · January 25, 2013

Love to see pictures when they're ready !

Levent · January 25, 2013

Hi Scope, there is a mini dwarf variety called Chibikko.I read somewhere that it's originated from Japan.Do you have any info on this variety?Thanks in advance.
Levent

Scope · January 27, 2013

Oh, sorry dice,
About pollination, we use fruits set spray,called 'tomato-tone'. There is fertilizer called 'tomato- tone' in US,I looked up. A bit complex. You know, using this spray,tomatoes set without seeds. In my experience,those tomatoes are increase Brix%.(around 0.5%) and lower acid. Its not real tomato taste. But our customers willing t o buy them.
In spring and fall, I derive Bumble Bee. They work very well ,often too much.(they bite stigma,then flowers drop.)

Thank you Deborah,
I'll sow them in March. I hope to making a good result. Also take nice photos! In my greenhouse,they'll show ripe fruits within a week. I'll post the photo of them too.

Thank you Levent,
I've never heard of Chibikko till now.I looked up about it. Japanese breeding company 'Marutane' listed it. According to their description, Chibikko is dwarf/determinate/ cherry tomato. Their red fruits are size of 2cm. OP variety. How do you know this variety?

Deborah · January 27, 2013

Great !

dice · January 28, 2013

Artificial bee (electric toothbrush):
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...NDB8R-HV3xGMtc
(One does not touch the flowers themselves, only the stems of
the flower clusters. Usually only blossoms that would drop anyway
drop using this method. Blossoms that are ready to pollenate set
fruit.)

Scope · January 28, 2013

Thanks dice,
I've forgot to tell you about pollination wand. I use this for seeds collection of OP varieties.
But I lost the yellow stick of this wand. Here is a link. Japanese site,sorry.
http://www.engei.net/Browse.asp?ID=43314

dice · January 28, 2013

Yes, a pollenation wand has longer reach than an electric
toothbrush. They tend to be more expensive than electric
toothbrushes here (only sold by plant nursery and greenhouse
suppliers, while electric toothbrushes can be found in many
kinds of store at lower prices).

Another way: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RmdGcqYB_a...0/DSCN1230.JPG

Levent · January 29, 2013

I had Chibikko seeds from Tatiana, just sowed them in diatomite.I don't recall now I have read on an internet site that Chibikko is a variety from Japan (heirloom? man made hybrid? mutation?)

Scope · January 30, 2013

Thanks dice,
I bought an electric toothbrush!! I've never use this. First, I tried this to my tooth..Oh! WHAT A NICE FEELING! I'll buy one more.. Really THANK YOU!

Thanks Levent,
I looked up about Chibikko tomato again. I could only find is it's an open pollinated variety. Other details are unknown. In my opinion, Chibikko was bred not only edible, but also ornamental. So Marutane(bred company) says,Chibikko looks very good when you grow in the small pot on the table. You can pick and eat at dinner. I haven't tried yet...

Deborah · January 30, 2013

Scope, that made me laugh about the toothbrush feeling good. That's how I feel every time I brush.

January 16, 2013	#17
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	Sakura is sold in the US. You can use this custom Google search to search the WWW for available plants and seeds: http://www.google.com/custom?num=50&...%3Aad-kgp1hr6o I usually provide "tomato name" for search terms. Here are the results for "tomato Sakura", using that search form, for example: http://www.google.com/custom?num=50&...ra&btnG=Search How do you pollenate the plants in your green house? __________________ -- alias

January 27, 2013	#22
Scope Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Climate Zone　9B in Asia Posts: 26	Oh, sorry dice, About pollination, we use fruits set spray,called 'tomato-tone'. There is fertilizer called 'tomato- tone' in US,I looked up. A bit complex. You know, using this spray,tomatoes set without seeds. In my experience,those tomatoes are increase Brix%.(around 0.5%) and lower acid. Its not real tomato taste. But our customers willing t o buy them. In spring and fall, I derive Bumble Bee. They work very well ,often too much.(they bite stigma,then flowers drop.) Thank you Deborah, I'll sow them in March. I hope to making a good result. Also take nice photos! In my greenhouse,they'll show ripe fruits within a week. I'll post the photo of them too. Thank you Levent, I've never heard of Chibikko till now.I looked up about it. Japanese breeding company 'Marutane' listed it. According to their description, Chibikko is dwarf/determinate/ cherry tomato. Their red fruits are size of 2cm. OP variety. How do you know this variety? Last edited by Scope; January 27, 2013 at 06:16 PM.

January 28, 2013	#24
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	Artificial bee (electric toothbrush): http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...NDB8R-HV3xGMtc (One does not touch the flowers themselves, only the stems of the flower clusters. Usually only blossoms that would drop anyway drop using this method. Blossoms that are ready to pollenate set fruit.) __________________ -- alias

January 28, 2013	#26
dice Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PNW Posts: 4,743	Yes, a pollenation wand has longer reach than an electric toothbrush. They tend to be more expensive than electric toothbrushes here (only sold by plant nursery and greenhouse suppliers, while electric toothbrushes can be found in many kinds of store at lower prices). Another way: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RmdGcqYB_a...0/DSCN1230.JPG __________________ -- alias

January 10, 2013	#16
Scope Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Climate Zone　9B in Asia Posts: 26	Thank you. Doug, Taru is kind of a hydroponic system. This is good for growing tomatoes. I grow musk melons and cucumbers with this system. But they seems that they need much more root cavity. So their yield is not so good. Deborah, Have you grow Lovely Sakura!? I grow this variety every year. The breeder Mikadokyouwa Seed in Japan says Lovely Sakura is one of premium cherry tomato. I'm using this only in greenhouse .So I have no idea about stability at the open field. But we can have fairly sweet and beautiful cherry tomatoes. Is this released in your country?

January 16, 2013	#18
Deborah Riding The Crazy Train Again Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: San Marcos, California Posts: 2,562	No, I have never heard of it until you mentioned it here.

January 25, 2013	#19
Scope Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Climate Zone　9B in Asia Posts: 26	Thank you dice, But I have no idea that Sakura and Lovely Sakura are the same variety. There are some varieties name of Sakura is applied. I've run out the seeds of Lovely Sakura. A few days ago, I got them. I've checked back of the package. Seeds were produced in France. This is just my prediction, originally they are French F1 variety, and then renamed as Lovely Sakura? Thank you Deborah, Oh.... I'm sorry,it was my reading error. I haven't tested Lovely Sakura at field. They are recommended in the greenhouse. I'll try a few plants at field this year.

January 25, 2013	#21
Levent Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Turkey Posts: 393	Hi Scope, there is a mini dwarf variety called Chibikko.I read somewhere that it's originated from Japan.Do you have any info on this variety?Thanks in advance. Levent

January 29, 2013	#27
Levent Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Turkey Posts: 393	I had Chibikko seeds from Tatiana, just sowed them in diatomite.I don't recall now I have read on an internet site that Chibikko is a variety from Japan (heirloom? man made hybrid? mutation?)

January 30, 2013	#28
Scope Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Climate Zone　9B in Asia Posts: 26	Thanks dice, I bought an electric toothbrush!! I've never use this. First, I tried this to my tooth..Oh! WHAT A NICE FEELING! I'll buy one more.. Really THANK YOU! Thanks Levent, I looked up about Chibikko tomato again. I could only find is it's an open pollinated variety. Other details are unknown. In my opinion, Chibikko was bred not only edible, but also ornamental. So Marutane(bred company) says,Chibikko looks very good when you grow in the small pot on the table. You can pick and eat at dinner. I haven't tried yet...