My cold frame - Page 2

Deborah · May 3, 2013

OK, I should poke holes under the bag too. Thanks.
The bags are 2 cubic feet. I roll the tops down an inch or two and it really looks nice.
I can't save soil here, or compost, and since the bag is choked with roots at the end of the season, I just roll the trash can to the dead plants and away they go to the landfill.

JamesL · May 4, 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel_NY

>Do you use that to feed all season?
Most likely, yes.

The problem is that I also like
Neptune's Harvest Organic Fish/Seaweed Blend Fertilizer
http://www.neptunesharvest.com/fs-191.html

so I’ll have to find a solution to use both.

I love Big Bloom and I would like to use the entire set from Fox Farm
http://www.amazon.com/Fox-Farm-FX140...ords=big+bloom

The only problem is that only Big Bloom is ORGANIC. Grow Big and Tiger Bloom are NOT. I’m sure they are awesome products, but I prefer to grow my plants organic.

>Planting in containers or the ground?

I had BAD experiences with those 5 gl. buckets from Home Depot: short, thin plants, no fruits. Maybe I over-watered, maybe I made too few holes at the bottom of the bucket, maybe the soil was not fluffy enough, maybe… Anyway, I’m not going to use those buckets anymore.

I had EXCELLENT results with BIG plastic boxes like this one – the bigger, the better:
http://largeplasticstoragecontainers...containers.jpg

Probably because they are bigger… And the soil was fluffier...

So, everything will go in the ground, where ALWAYS everything was fine.

Daniel,
On the feeding - I meant using the 5 gal jug, not the fox farm. Lol
Everything will go in the ground- always hard to argue with results!

Daniel_NY · May 4, 2013

tlintx wrote: > Have you considered making an earthtainer?
Yes, but I’ll think again. Tx.

JamesL wrote: > On the feeding - I meant using the 5 gal jug, not the fox farm. Lol.
Ooooook. My bad.
No, for feeding all season, I use the Pre-Mix Sprayer (Gilmour) [ $14.67 - 40% off right now ]
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

> Everything will go in the ground- always hard to argue with results!
True, but actually, probably I’ll use 2 big plastic boxes, if I’ll not do a few earthtainers, as tlintx suggested.

Daniel_NY · May 5, 2013

Yesterday my seedlings looked like this:

Today they look like this:

What happened was a malfunction of openining the lid – not Univent’s fault, my improvisation’s fault, trying to open bigger. Few hours later, when I came home the lid was closed and 137’ F inside.

What do you think I could do?

Deborah · May 5, 2013

Oh, no. I hope the experts come along soon to this thread. Dang git, Dan, it all looked so great too !

JamesL · May 5, 2013

Oh the humanity!
I have no idea what to do in this situation. Nothing for 24 hours or so to see if anything bounces back? A heavy prune and hope for new shoots?

What I CAN do is offer you my extras. I should have at least a dozen and possibly twice that. Barring any catastrophe's on my end through the end of this week of course. I am just north of Mineola so not too far away.

Daniel_NY · May 5, 2013

yeah, a heavy pruning and hoping for new shoots, or new seedlings;
tx for the offer. i'll wait a few days.
i do have a few back-up seedlings, but... a few

JamesL · May 5, 2013

Well I hope some recover.
My extras are just that -extra. I had unexpected success with grafting this year. So I have extra grafted plants too.
So if you don't take'em I still have to give them away!

lycomania · May 5, 2013

Wow, Daniel...what a spot of bad luck. Here's hoping everything works out in the end, between your backups and James' generous offer.

macbettz · May 7, 2013

Oh man except for a couple of plants it looks like you should toss them they are cooked. I would be tempted to start over. You never know what the weather will bring when you grow outdoors so growing in that nice grow box your plants may catch up if the weather doesnt cooperate when people are rushing to plant outdoors. I think I read in a forum someone in New Hampshire already planted out this weekend. you might want to just automatically prop open the lid now in the morning and close at nitetime.

Daniel_NY · May 13, 2013

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Daniel_NY · May 13, 2013

Back to square one:

Deborah · May 14, 2013

Here's hoping these'll be great !

lycomania · May 14, 2013

Looks more like square four and congratulations for persevering!

Daniel_NY · May 15, 2013

@ Deborah and lycomania: tx for your nice thoughts.

@ lycomania: technically, you’re right, but I start with seedlings, so that’s... “my” square one.

May 3, 2013	#16
Deborah Riding The Crazy Train Again Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: San Marcos, California Posts: 2,562	OK, I should poke holes under the bag too. Thanks. The bags are 2 cubic feet. I roll the tops down an inch or two and it really looks nice. I can't save soil here, or compost, and since the bag is choked with roots at the end of the season, I just roll the trash can to the dead plants and away they go to the landfill. Last edited by Deborah; May 3, 2013 at 11:27 PM. Reason: P.S. The bags are on the patio, leaning against the patio roof poles. I twine the branches around the poles.

May 4, 2013	#18
Daniel_NY Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Great Neck Posts: 14	tlintx wrote: > Have you considered making an earthtainer? Yes, but I’ll think again. Tx. JamesL wrote: > On the feeding - I meant using the 5 gal jug, not the fox farm. Lol. Ooooook. My bad. No, for feeding all season, I use the Pre-Mix Sprayer (Gilmour) [ $14.67 - 40% off right now ] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 > Everything will go in the ground- always hard to argue with results! True, but actually, probably I’ll use 2 big plastic boxes, if I’ll not do a few earthtainers, as tlintx suggested. Last edited by Daniel_NY; May 4, 2013 at 09:26 AM.

May 13, 2013	#26
Daniel_NY Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Great Neck Posts: 14	...... Last edited by Daniel_NY; May 13, 2013 at 02:56 PM.

May 5, 2013	#19
Daniel_NY Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Great Neck Posts: 14	Yesterday my seedlings looked like this: Today they look like this: What happened was a malfunction of openining the lid – not Univent’s fault, my improvisation’s fault, trying to open bigger. Few hours later, when I came home the lid was closed and 137’ F inside. What do you think I could do?

May 5, 2013	#21
JamesL Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 1,992	Oh the humanity! I have no idea what to do in this situation. Nothing for 24 hours or so to see if anything bounces back? A heavy prune and hope for new shoots? What I CAN do is offer you my extras. I should have at least a dozen and possibly twice that. Barring any catastrophe's on my end through the end of this week of course. I am just north of Mineola so not too far away.

May 5, 2013	#24
lycomania Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Zone 5b Posts: 179	Wow, Daniel...what a spot of bad luck. Here's hoping everything works out in the end, between your backups and James' generous offer.

May 7, 2013	#25
macbettz Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: CT Posts: 40	Oh man except for a couple of plants it looks like you should toss them they are cooked. I would be tempted to start over. You never know what the weather will bring when you grow outdoors so growing in that nice grow box your plants may catch up if the weather doesnt cooperate when people are rushing to plant outdoors. I think I read in a forum someone in New Hampshire already planted out this weekend. you might want to just automatically prop open the lid now in the morning and close at nitetime.

May 14, 2013	#28
Deborah Riding The Crazy Train Again Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: San Marcos, California Posts: 2,562	Here's hoping these'll be great !

May 15, 2013	#30
Daniel_NY Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Great Neck Posts: 14	@ Deborah and lycomania: tx for your nice thoughts. @ lycomania: technically, you’re right, but I start with seedlings, so that’s... “my” square one.