All the Pretty Peppers - Sweets - Page 2

dinca · January 17, 2014

Yesterday I planted five seeds from a fruit from each of the varieties shown in the earlier photos. The seeds were planted into 2" x 2" cells containing a soil-less mix. They are kept at 80 degrees farenheit under clear domes. There is no supplemental light at this time, but they will be placed under twin 40 watt flourescent tubes when the first seed sprouts.

It is not the intent to grow all of the varieties to maturity for continued selection.

The plants pictured in the first post are being grown as part of a project conceived and directed by NCTOMATOMAN. The choice to plant all and cull later is based on my need to plant and his current activity level. He has my reports and photos and will determine which ones should continue based on that information and his selection criteria when he becomes less busy.

I've also planted seeds from all the plants shown in the immediately preceding post. I'm not planning to hover over all of them - I'm scratching the offspring from 5.3, 14.1 and 17.1. The seeds from 16.2 are much darker than those from the other plants and this often indicates poor viability, so this one may die out on its own.

All plants that emerge and aren't selected to go forward will be donated to the Food Closet Garden where they won't go to waste (and where I can keep an eye on them - just in case something 'pops').

FaithHopeLove · January 18, 2014

Those are the most beautiful peppers I've ever seen!

meadowyck · January 20, 2014

What an incredible documented spread on your peppers. I'm just now coming into all the wonderful colorful peppers.

I just wish I could have all the colors in the smaller sweet pepper sizes.... LOL

Thanks for sharing with us.

dinca · January 20, 2014

In 2010 there was an accidental cross in NCTOMATOMAN's garden between a predecessor of Fire Opal (see 1st post) and an unknown hot pepper. The seeds were saved in Craig's Vial 10.50. I planted seed from that vial in 2011 and the cross was discovered during that growing season. F2 seeds were saved. In 2012, 20 examples of the F2 seeds were planted and resulted in 19 plants that were planted in the ground. Eighteen of the 19 produced fruit and seed (F3) was saved from all of them. Based on loosely defined and unwritten selection criteria - which are subject to change without notice or even reason, five varieties (F3) were chosen for planting in 2013. All 2013 plants were grown in black plastic nursery cans and watered daily by a drip system.

F3 seed from Plant 5 was selected for planting in 2013 due to its brilliant red ripe color. The seeds sown produced three plants:
Plant 5.1 produced pretty Orange 3.5-4.0" conical fruit. This selection (F4) is going forward in 2014 due to pretty color.
Plant 5.2 produced nice Red 2.5-3.5" conical fruit. This selection (F4) is going forward in 2014 due to pretty color.
Plant 5.3 produced murky to bright Red 1.5-3.0" blunt conical to mini-bell fruit. This selection was scratched due to better color and larger size of 5.2.

F3 seed from Plant 6 was selected for planting in 2013 due to its length and girth. Seeds sown produced one plant:
Plant 6.1 Produced nice Yellow 3.0-4.0" long blunt fruit. This selection (F4) is going forward in 2014 due to length, color and shape.

F3 seed from Plant 14 was selected for planting in 2013 due to its orange ripe color. Seeds sown produced two plants:
Plant 14.1 produced Gold 4.0" conical to blunt conical fruit. This selection was scratched due to better color in 5.1.
Plant 14.2 produced Red 4.0" conical fruit - 3.0" bell fruit. This selection (F4) is going forward in 2014 because it is the only traditional bell shape in the lot.

F3 seed from Plant 16 was selected for planting in 2013 due to its deep red ripe color. Seeds sown produced two plants:
Plant 16.1 produced dark Red 3.0"-4.0" blunt conical fruit. This selection (F4) is going forward in 2014 due to size and color.
Plant 16.2 produced Gold 2.0"-3.5" conical fruit. This selection (F4) is going foward in 2014 due to color and to compare against 5.1. However, seeds may not be viable.

F3 seed from Plant 17 was selected for planting in 2013 due to its yellow ripe color. Seeds sown produced two plants:
Plant 17.1 produced fruit that were Purple for long time, blushing to gold 4.0" long bell. This selection was scratched due to lateness in ripening.
Plant 17.2 produced fruit that were Purple for long time, changing to Ivory from top to bottom 3.0" conical. This selection (F4) is going forward due to unusual coloring and ripening sequence.

Planting for 2014 took place on January 16. Five seeds per variety, in soil-less mix, in 2" x 2" cells, over 80 degree (F) heat.

goodj@ck · February 20, 2014

Cool ! Many thanks.

dinca · February 27, 2014

Planted five seeds of each of the following F4 selections on January 16 over heat:
5.1 seeds from a pretty Orange 3.5-4.0" conical fruit. Germination stands at 4/5 = 80%.
5.2 seeds from a nice Red 2.5-3.5" conical fruit. Germination stands at 2/5 = 80%.
5.3 seeds from a murky to bright Red 1.5-3.0" blunt conical to mini-bell fruit. Germination stands at 2/5 = 40%. May not go forward.
6.1 seeds from a nice Yellow 3.0-4.0" long blunt fruit. Germination stands at 5/5 = 100%.
14.1 seeds from a Gold 4.0" conical to blunt conical fruit. Germination stands at 5/5 = 100%. May not go forward.
14.2 seeds from a Red 4.0" conical fruit - 3.0" bell fruit. Germination stands at 5/5 = 100%.
16.1 seeds from a dark Red 3.0"-4.0" blunt conical fruit. Germination stands at 5/5 = 100%.
16.2 seeds from a Gold 2.0"-3.5" conical fruit. Germination stands at 3/5 = 60%.
17.1 seeds from fruit that were Purple for long time, blushing to gold 4.0" long bell. Germination stands at 4/5 = 80%. May not go forward.
17.2 seeds from fruit that were Purple for long time, changing to Ivory from top to bottom 3.0" conical. Germination stands at 5/5 = 100%

dinca · August 13, 2014

August 13, 2014

Non-Project peppers.

Two hundred and nine days ago, I sowed five seeds of each of the following F4 selections with the hope of planting two plants of each variety for comparison:
5.1 seeds from a pretty Orange 3.5-4.0" conical fruit.
5.2 seeds from a nice Red 2.5-3.5" conical fruit.
5.3 seeds from a murky to bright Red 1.5-3.0" blunt conical to mini-bell fruit.
6.1 seeds from a nice Yellow 3.0-4.0" long blunt fruit.
14.1 seeds from a Gold 4.0" conical to blunt conical fruit.
14.2 seeds from a Red 4.0" conical fruit - 3.0" bell fruit.
16.1 seeds from a dark Red 3.0"-4.0" blunt conical fruit.
16.2 seeds from a Gold 2.0"-3.5" conical fruit.
17.1 seeds from fruit that were Purple for long time, blushing to gold 4.0" long bell.
17.2 seeds from fruit that were Purple for long time, changing to Ivory from top to bottom 3.0" conical.

The varieties that have been greyed-out didn't survive, the reds did.

The first digit(s) refer to the pepper with that number in this photo which shows the fruits from the F2 generation:
1-100_7689.jpg

The full number refers to F3 peppers in the first of the following photos. The second photo shows the current F4 results:

5.1 and 5.3
1-100_1112.jpg 1-100_2026.jpg

6.1
2-100_1113.jpg 1-100_2026.jpg

14.1
4-100_1115.jpg 1-100_2026.jpg

16.1 and 16.2
5-100_1116.jpg 1-100_2026.jpg

17.2
6-100_1117.jpg 1-100_2026.jpg

Variability is rampant. It's too early to choose which will move forward in 2015.

BucksCountyGirl · August 14, 2014

Those purple "fire opal' are an absolutely STUNNING color! Impressive work you are doing, please keep up posted !

Tracydr · August 14, 2014

I love the unripe ones that are streaked with purple. When will some of these be ready for the public!

dinca · August 14, 2014

Because the variability is so great, I haven't even decided what I'll plant next year. I don't know of any commercial interest in these peppers.

dinca · August 21, 2014

I gave up on trying to incorporate photos in the post when they kept disappearing. Wasted hours!

catanache · October 7, 2014

That 17.2 purple turns ivory one is lovely. If you ever want someone else to grow out some of it's offspring, just let me know. I like sweet peppers and they've done really well for me so far.

Great, now I want to play with crossing them. Wonder what to choose...

Worth1 · October 7, 2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by catanache

That 17.2 purple turns ivory one is lovely. If you ever want someone else to grow out some of it's offspring, just let me know. I like sweet peppers and they've done really well for me so far.

Great, now I want to play with crossing them. Wonder what to choose...

I always wanted to cross a Chiltepin with a bell pepper.

Two pepper plants that are as far away from each other as can be.

Worth

peppero · October 8, 2014

I would like to thank you for all the hard work you did in order to share the dazzlingly beautiful photos with us. It must be nice to see these on a daily basis. Keep up the good work.

jon

dinca · January 20, 2015

January 20, 2015

All these peppers descended from an accidental cross between a bell pepper under development by Craig LeHoulier and an unknown, but presumeably sweet conical pepper that occurred in 2010 and was discovered in my 2011 grow-out. The result was a "David's Muli-colored Dream Coat" colored conical fruit. I saved the seeds from that fruit and planted 19 plants in 2012, of which 18 produced fruits of various shapes, sizes and colors. Seeds from the best looking fruit were grown in 2013 and more selections took place in 2014 (the results of which precede this post).

I had hoped that the variations in 2014 would include more bells and more reds, but that wasn't the case. So, I'm dropping back to an earlier generation to see if I can repeat that combination. In addition, I'm taking those seeds from 2014 fruit that intrigued me for one reason or another. After some consideration, these are the ones I've decided to take forward in 2015.

2015
5.3.2 Long Purple Cone with many colors along the way similar to the original fruit
2014-V5.3-2cropped.jpg

6.1.1 Blunt White Cone
2014-V6.1-1cropped.jpg

14.2 Red Bell (a 2013 selection)(all progeny died off in 2014)
20130811-14.2cropped.jpg

16.1.1 Medium to Long Red Cone
2014-V16.1-1cropped.jpg

16.2.1 Short to medium long, Purple to Orange Cone2
2014-V16.2-1.jpg

17.2.1 Short cone to Bell, Purple to Orange
2014-V17.2-1.jpg

I'll sow eight seeds of each tonight, hoping to plant four of each.

January 17, 2014	#16
dinca Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: California Posts: 269	2014 Pepper Planting Yesterday I planted five seeds from a fruit from each of the varieties shown in the earlier photos. The seeds were planted into 2" x 2" cells containing a soil-less mix. They are kept at 80 degrees farenheit under clear domes. There is no supplemental light at this time, but they will be placed under twin 40 watt flourescent tubes when the first seed sprouts. It is not the intent to grow all of the varieties to maturity for continued selection. The plants pictured in the first post are being grown as part of a project conceived and directed by NCTOMATOMAN. The choice to plant all and cull later is based on my need to plant and his current activity level. He has my reports and photos and will determine which ones should continue based on that information and his selection criteria when he becomes less busy. I've also planted seeds from all the plants shown in the immediately preceding post. I'm not planning to hover over all of them - I'm scratching the offspring from 5.3, 14.1 and 17.1. The seeds from 16.2 are much darker than those from the other plants and this often indicates poor viability, so this one may die out on its own. All plants that emerge and aren't selected to go forward will be donated to the Food Closet Garden where they won't go to waste (and where I can keep an eye on them - just in case something 'pops').

January 20, 2014	#18
meadowyck Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2012 Location: Brooksville, FL Posts: 1,001	What an incredible documented spread on your peppers. I'm just now coming into all the wonderful colorful peppers. I just wish I could have all the colors in the smaller sweet pepper sizes.... LOL Thanks for sharing with us. __________________ Jan “Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.” -Theodore Roosevelt

January 20, 2014	#19
dinca Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: California Posts: 269	A Family Tree and a Peek at the Future In 2010 there was an accidental cross in NCTOMATOMAN's garden between a predecessor of Fire Opal (see 1st post) and an unknown hot pepper. The seeds were saved in Craig's Vial 10.50. I planted seed from that vial in 2011 and the cross was discovered during that growing season. F2 seeds were saved. In 2012, 20 examples of the F2 seeds were planted and resulted in 19 plants that were planted in the ground. Eighteen of the 19 produced fruit and seed (F3) was saved from all of them. Based on loosely defined and unwritten selection criteria - which are subject to change without notice or even reason, five varieties (F3) were chosen for planting in 2013. All 2013 plants were grown in black plastic nursery cans and watered daily by a drip system. F3 seed from Plant 5 was selected for planting in 2013 due to its brilliant red ripe color. The seeds sown produced three plants: Plant 5.1 produced pretty Orange 3.5-4.0" conical fruit. This selection (F4) is going forward in 2014 due to pretty color. Plant 5.2 produced nice Red 2.5-3.5" conical fruit. This selection (F4) is going forward in 2014 due to pretty color. Plant 5.3 produced murky to bright Red 1.5-3.0" blunt conical to mini-bell fruit. This selection was scratched due to better color and larger size of 5.2. F3 seed from Plant 6 was selected for planting in 2013 due to its length and girth. Seeds sown produced one plant: Plant 6.1 Produced nice Yellow 3.0-4.0" long blunt fruit. This selection (F4) is going forward in 2014 due to length, color and shape. F3 seed from Plant 14 was selected for planting in 2013 due to its orange ripe color. Seeds sown produced two plants: Plant 14.1 produced Gold 4.0" conical to blunt conical fruit. This selection was scratched due to better color in 5.1. Plant 14.2 produced Red 4.0" conical fruit - 3.0" bell fruit. This selection (F4) is going forward in 2014 because it is the only traditional bell shape in the lot. F3 seed from Plant 16 was selected for planting in 2013 due to its deep red ripe color. Seeds sown produced two plants: Plant 16.1 produced dark Red 3.0"-4.0" blunt conical fruit. This selection (F4) is going forward in 2014 due to size and color. Plant 16.2 produced Gold 2.0"-3.5" conical fruit. This selection (F4) is going foward in 2014 due to color and to compare against 5.1. However, seeds may not be viable. F3 seed from Plant 17 was selected for planting in 2013 due to its yellow ripe color. Seeds sown produced two plants: Plant 17.1 produced fruit that were Purple for long time, blushing to gold 4.0" long bell. This selection was scratched due to lateness in ripening. Plant 17.2 produced fruit that were Purple for long time, changing to Ivory from top to bottom 3.0" conical. This selection (F4) is going forward due to unusual coloring and ripening sequence. Planting for 2014 took place on January 16. Five seeds per variety, in soil-less mix, in 2" x 2" cells, over 80 degree (F) heat. Last edited by dinca; January 20, 2014 at 02:42 PM.

February 20, 2014	#20
goodj@ck Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: FRANCE Posts: 66	Cool ! Many thanks. __________________ http://le-rateau-et-l-oiseau.blogspot.fr/ http://jacketlagrenouille.blogspot.fr/ https://www.facebook.com/jack.goodjack

February 27, 2014	#21
dinca Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: California Posts: 269	2014 Sowing and Germination Planted five seeds of each of the following F4 selections on January 16 over heat: 5.1 seeds from a pretty Orange 3.5-4.0" conical fruit. Germination stands at 4/5 = 80%. 5.2 seeds from a nice Red 2.5-3.5" conical fruit. Germination stands at 2/5 = 80%. 5.3 seeds from a murky to bright Red 1.5-3.0" blunt conical to mini-bell fruit. Germination stands at 2/5 = 40%. May not go forward. 6.1 seeds from a nice Yellow 3.0-4.0" long blunt fruit. Germination stands at 5/5 = 100%. 14.1 seeds from a Gold 4.0" conical to blunt conical fruit. Germination stands at 5/5 = 100%. May not go forward. 14.2 seeds from a Red 4.0" conical fruit - 3.0" bell fruit. Germination stands at 5/5 = 100%. 16.1 seeds from a dark Red 3.0"-4.0" blunt conical fruit. Germination stands at 5/5 = 100%. 16.2 seeds from a Gold 2.0"-3.5" conical fruit. Germination stands at 3/5 = 60%. 17.1 seeds from fruit that were Purple for long time, blushing to gold 4.0" long bell. Germination stands at 4/5 = 80%. May not go forward. 17.2 seeds from fruit that were Purple for long time, changing to Ivory from top to bottom 3.0" conical. Germination stands at 5/5 = 100%

January 18, 2014	#17
FaithHopeLove Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: Summerfield, FL Posts: 197	Those are the most beautiful peppers I've ever seen!

August 13, 2014	#22
dinca Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: California Posts: 269	August 13, 2014 Non-Project peppers. Two hundred and nine days ago, I sowed five seeds of each of the following F4 selections with the hope of planting two plants of each variety for comparison: 5.1 seeds from a pretty Orange 3.5-4.0" conical fruit. 5.2 seeds from a nice Red 2.5-3.5" conical fruit. 5.3 seeds from a murky to bright Red 1.5-3.0" blunt conical to mini-bell fruit. 6.1 seeds from a nice Yellow 3.0-4.0" long blunt fruit. 14.1 seeds from a Gold 4.0" conical to blunt conical fruit. 14.2 seeds from a Red 4.0" conical fruit - 3.0" bell fruit. 16.1 seeds from a dark Red 3.0"-4.0" blunt conical fruit. 16.2 seeds from a Gold 2.0"-3.5" conical fruit. 17.1 seeds from fruit that were Purple for long time, blushing to gold 4.0" long bell. 17.2 seeds from fruit that were Purple for long time, changing to Ivory from top to bottom 3.0" conical. The varieties that have been greyed-out didn't survive, the reds did. The first digit(s) refer to the pepper with that number in this photo which shows the fruits from the F2 generation: 1-100_7689.jpg The full number refers to F3 peppers in the first of the following photos. The second photo shows the current F4 results: 5.1 and 5.3 1-100_1112.jpg 1-100_2026.jpg 6.1 2-100_1113.jpg 1-100_2026.jpg 14.1 4-100_1115.jpg 1-100_2026.jpg 16.1 and 16.2 5-100_1116.jpg 1-100_2026.jpg 17.2 6-100_1117.jpg 1-100_2026.jpg Variability is rampant. It's too early to choose which will move forward in 2015.

August 14, 2014	#23
BucksCountyGirl Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Holland, PA/Zone 7A Posts: 692	Those purple "fire opal' are an absolutely STUNNING color! Impressive work you are doing, please keep up posted ! __________________ - Kelli Life's a climb...but the view is fantastic

August 14, 2014	#24
Tracydr Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2011 Location: Laurinburg, North Carolina, zone 7 Posts: 3,207	I love the unripe ones that are streaked with purple. When will some of these be ready for the public!

August 21, 2014	#26
dinca Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: California Posts: 269	Non-Project Peppers I gave up on trying to incorporate photos in the post when they kept disappearing. Wasted hours! Last edited by dinca; August 21, 2014 at 10:11 PM. Reason: May be when I have nothing else to do

October 7, 2014	#27
catanache Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: PA Posts: 10	That 17.2 purple turns ivory one is lovely. If you ever want someone else to grow out some of it's offspring, just let me know. I like sweet peppers and they've done really well for me so far. Great, now I want to play with crossing them. Wonder what to choose...

October 8, 2014	#29
peppero Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: selmer, tn Posts: 2,944	I would like to thank you for all the hard work you did in order to share the dazzlingly beautiful photos with us. It must be nice to see these on a daily basis. Keep up the good work. jon

January 20, 2015	#30
dinca Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: California Posts: 269	Plans for 2015 January 20, 2015 All these peppers descended from an accidental cross between a bell pepper under development by Craig LeHoulier and an unknown, but presumeably sweet conical pepper that occurred in 2010 and was discovered in my 2011 grow-out. The result was a "David's Muli-colored Dream Coat" colored conical fruit. I saved the seeds from that fruit and planted 19 plants in 2012, of which 18 produced fruits of various shapes, sizes and colors. Seeds from the best looking fruit were grown in 2013 and more selections took place in 2014 (the results of which precede this post). I had hoped that the variations in 2014 would include more bells and more reds, but that wasn't the case. So, I'm dropping back to an earlier generation to see if I can repeat that combination. In addition, I'm taking those seeds from 2014 fruit that intrigued me for one reason or another. After some consideration, these are the ones I've decided to take forward in 2015. 2015 5.3.2 Long Purple Cone with many colors along the way similar to the original fruit 2014-V5.3-2cropped.jpg 6.1.1 Blunt White Cone 2014-V6.1-1cropped.jpg 14.2 Red Bell (a 2013 selection)(all progeny died off in 2014) 20130811-14.2cropped.jpg 16.1.1 Medium to Long Red Cone 2014-V16.1-1cropped.jpg 16.2.1 Short to medium long, Purple to Orange Cone2 2014-V16.2-1.jpg 17.2.1 Short cone to Bell, Purple to Orange 2014-V17.2-1.jpg I'll sow eight seeds of each tonight, hoping to plant four of each.