Marglobe's child -- Break O' Day

[travis]

I'm going to assume, from the lack of an answer to repeated questions, that JLJ grew one plant that he thinks is Break O'Day, and it produced yellow tomatoes rather than red tomatoes. Sounds like a whole lot is being made over one off-type or wrong seed plant.

[JLJ_]

I just happened to wander past this thread again. For anyone interested in this topic, if you go down the thread and read just my posts, you'll find almost everything I have to say about the topic, including, I think, answers to questions or info that renders them irrelevant -- beginning with post #1. I ceased replying to posts that hadn't noticed this because I found it impossible to do so as kindly as I would wish.

(Not suggesting that you shouldn't read all posts, just that by reading mine in sequence you'll know what I have to say on the topic.)

The data is here, that it was reported in 1931, shortly after the introduction of Break O Day, that its tendency to ripen some fruit lemon colored was probably what prevented Break O Day from being a more commercially powerful Marglobe's child; that a 1937 USDA reference said this lack of commercial success was "because it fails to meet rigid color requirements"; and that this same tendency was observed in 2013.

And since.

So, most of the fruit most of you see of this variety will probably be good ol' Marglobe red, but if you are lucky, and notice a few nice, healthy, lemon colored fruit among the produce of your Break O Days, don't let anyone tell you that something is wrong with your plants -- they may just showing reverence for their ancestors.

(Haven't had time to grow many Break O Day lately -- too busy trying to convince the very fine Daniel Burson that it wants to grow in the snow. )

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by JLJ_

I just happened to wander past this thread again. For anyone interested in this topic, if you go down the thread and read just my posts, you'll find almost everything I have to say about the topic, including, I think, answers to questions or info that renders them irrelevant -- beginning with post #1. I ceased replying to posts that hadn't noticed this because I found it impossible to do so as kindly as I would wish.

(Not suggesting that you shouldn't read all posts, just that by reading mine in sequence you'll know what I have to say on the topic.)

The data is here, that it was reported in 1931, shortly after the introduction of Break O Day, that its tendency to ripen some fruit lemon colored was probably what prevented Break O Day from being a more commercially powerful Marglobe's child; that a 1937 USDA reference said this lack of commercial success was "because it fails to meet rigid color requirements"; and that this same tendency was observed in 2013.

And since.

So, most of the fruit most of you see of this variety will probably be good ol' Marglobe red, but if you are lucky, and notice a few nice, healthy, lemon colored fruit among the produce of your Break O Days, don't let anyone tell you that something is wrong with your plants -- they may just showing reverence for their ancestors.

(Haven't had time to grow many Break O Day lately -- too busy trying to convince the very fine Daniel Burson that it wants to grow in the snow. )

No one has answered the questions that Travis has asked,which is, is it yet another situation where all fruits on a plant or even just ONE fruit appears, that would be due to somatic mutation,mutation in plant cells, not seeds, results in a different from normal color/

I saw a similar situation with the variety Green Gage,which is a pre 1800 variety

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Green_Gage

In two different years I saw one branch that had red fruits and when I did more Googling I found that that variety had been doing that since at least the mid 1800's, no link to that info b/c it has been dead for many years,

But the appearance of red fruits on normally yellow varieties, and the reverse,has aptly bee demonstrated by Yellow Riesentraube,

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Y...b=General_Info

ONE fruit on the plant of all normal red fruits was yellow.

Carolyn

[dustdevil]

JLJ, inquiring minds want to know if the yellow BOD tasted the same as the red or was the yellow "milder"?

[AlittleSalt]

I will be planting seeds for Break O' Day tomorrow. I'll plant a few extra just for curiosity's sake.

[Worth1]

Originally Posted by AlittleSalt

I will be planting seeds for Break O' Day tomorrow. I'll plant a few extra just for curiosity's sake.

Salt is that from me or someone else.
And if it is from me is it a pile in a brown package?

If so I saved those seeds from tomatoes Suze Anderson gave me or tomatoes I grew and saved from tomatoes she gave me.

Worth

[Worth1]

I just want to add I have grown a lot of Break O Day and never had a yellow one show up at all.
Worth

[AlittleSalt]

I guess that's why I need to plant even more. I had a feeling. They will be grown. I'll add to this thread June-July-ish.

[Worth1]

Originally Posted by AlittleSalt

I guess that's why I need to plant even more. I had a feeling. They will be grown. I'll add to this thread June-July-ish.

I hope you get them to sprout they are one heck of a good tomato for us here at least they were for me.

Worth

[AlittleSalt]

They will.

[Worth1]

I cannot recommend this variety enough.

Worth