Determinate height.

[bower]

One trait I don't like, is the type of determinates that will not ripen any fruit until they are finished flowering and setting. They may set earlier but still you have to wait for them to finish before there are any ripe, so the DTM is longer than an early indeterminate.

This is what I've seen in Beaverlodge Plum, Siberian Pink, Napoli a Fiaschetto for example. Cold Set and Siletz followed the same pattern but started to flower and set again once a few had ripened. It wasn't the case for Zolotoe Serdtse or Danko afaict, they continued to flower and set and ripen fruit throughout the season, although determinate by definition as shown in Travis' photos. So there's a lot of variation in that flowering/setting habit.

[Salsacharley]

Originally Posted by bower

One trait I don't like, is the type of determinates that will not ripen any fruit until they are finished flowering and setting. They may set earlier but still you have to wait for them to finish before there are any ripe, so the DTM is longer than an early indeterminate.

Ah Ha! This must be what's going on with my Celebrity plant right now. It has tons of green tomatoes on it that have just been hanging there for over a month. The plant continues to flower and set more fruit, and here it is Oct 28 and the lower tomatoes are still green. I'm probably going to have to either bring it inside (it is in a 5 gal SIP) and try to get Christmas tomatoes, or otherwise it will be fried green tomatoes, as frost is due any day here.

Charley

[bower]

Yep, it's not the place to be at season's end!

Siberian Pink is really early and a fruit setting beast, but in the field trial it didn't score. Alaska and Kimberley were pronounced the winners, and when I asked about SP they said "I haven't tasted one yet". Alaska is determinate too, I put mine outdoors because it didn't do well early in the greenhouse so didn't follow its growth closely after that. It did set lots of fruit outside, and I guess it continued to ripen and flower continuously, and delivered earlier at the farm. They were good tasting too!

I haven't grown Celebrity.

[Cole_Robbie]

I hope your Celebrity tastes better than mine did. It was a big, pretty, and productive plant, but flavor was lacking. I grew Celebrity and Big Beef side by side and I could not tell them apart, other than flavor. The Celebrity was a big plant, bigger than any of the other determinates I grew.

[Sun City Linda]

I have a theory about determinates, being: The older we get, the more interested we become in growing them. For instance, I grew quite a few new to me tomatoes last year, all of which WERE DETERMINATES!

[bower]

Originally Posted by Sun City Linda

I have a theory about determinates, being: The older we get, the more interested we become in growing them. For instance, I grew quite a few new to me tomatoes last year, all of which WERE DETERMINATES!

Why is it Linda? Are we too feeble to reach the big vines?