Burpee's Steakhouse

[FarmerShawn]

I grew Supersauce last year, and in spite of the rampant foliage diseases that moved in during my one week vacation, it produced nice big meaty tomatoes as advertised. I will grow it again next year. I just ordered supersteak today, and will approach it with an open and hopeful mind. I tried BigZac for three years before discarding it for lack of flavor and production in my garden, and I will likely give Supersteak at least as good a chance.


There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

[travis]

Shawn, let us know what SuperSteak produces. I truly would like to know. It might be a good one, like Big Beef, to use for upsizing and introducing resistances into "heirloom" type crosses. SuperSteak is different from Steakhouse, right?

And did SuperSauce produce tomatoes that truly were of a size that one tomato filled a canning jar? I'm thinking in terms of 1 tomato producing a full quart of canned whole tomatoes (a quart being 4 cups and equal to two pounds of sauce).

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by travis

To those who are ordering Steakhouse F1 hybrid from Burpee:

Have any of you grow Porterhouse F1 hybrid from Burpee? I have. I did it when I was suckered by the blurb back several years ago when Porterhouse first was introduced.

Read both blurbs in the 2014 Burpee catalog. Notice any similarities? About the only difference is days to maturity.

I'd bet five dollars to a donut that Steakhouse has a very similar pedigree to Porterhouse.

Porterhouse lived up to its claims for size. Neither I, nor any of my friends with whom I shared seeds, got a 4-pound tomato. We did get plenty of 1 to 2 pounders. But there was no flavor.

Back then I still grew Big Beef, as did several of the people who grew Porterhouse from the seeds I purchased. We, as well as most of the folks with whom we shared the tomatoes for eating, agreed that Big Beef was far superior in flavor. In fact, most folks said Porterhouse was no better than the average supermarket tomato.

In fact, I still have quite a few original F1 seeds for Porterhouse that I bought several years ago ... if that tells you anything about the flavor.

Best of luck with Steakhouse!

Similarities between Porterhouse and SteakHouse?

Probably, for I've said here at Tville before that while Burpee wants to get back into the breeding business as far as I know they are still subcontracting with Petoseed in CA and specifying what they want, in general and then they have right to naming of varieties.

Difficulties corresponding with Burpee about some of their varieties?

Yes, just ask travis, if he cares to discuss that.

Carolyn

[FarmerShawn]

Originally Posted by travis

Shawn, let us know what SuperSteak produces. I truly would like to know. It might be a good one, like Big Beef, to use for upsizing and introducing resistances into "heirloom" type crosses. SuperSteak is different from Steakhouse, right?

And did SuperSauce produce tomatoes that truly were of a size that one tomato filled a canning jar? I'm thinking in terms of 1 tomato producing a full quart of canned whole tomatoes (a quart being 4 cups and equal to two pounds of sauce).

Sorry, Travis. Typing during a break from grading papers, I mistyped, and meant Steakhouse. I don't think my Supersauce specimens quite got to be quart size, but as I said, it was not a great growing season around here. They were big, though, and uniformly so.


There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

[dudeatlarge]

Originally Posted by travis

Dudeatlarge: If you're a Big Mama fan, you should try out Burpee's "EXCLUSIVE" SuperSauce hybrid tomato. "Weighing in at 2 lbs. Supersauce produces gallons of luscious, seedless sauce from a single plant harvest - one tomato fills an entire sauce jar."

Let us know if those bold claims are true. "Gallons" of sauce from a single plant! But then I guess two gallons is plural. Just don't cook it down too thick

I grew super sauce this last year. What a big disappointment!! Didn't even come close to any of it's claims. If I had a smaller garden I would have been mad because I wasted space on it.

[amideutch]

I grew super sauce this last year. What a big disappointment!! Didn't even come close to any of it's claims. If I had a smaller garden I would have been mad because I wasted space on it.

You would not be disappointed with Ludmilla's Red Plum and it's OP!

Ami

[MR BILL]

has anyone tried growing Eastham turnips from cape cod.mr bill milford ct

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by amideutch

You would not be disappointed with Ludmilla's Red Plum and it's OP!

Ami

And with that I would agree . Ami, I think you and I need to start an LRP fan club b'c I know that you and I like it so very much.

I got my start from Reinhard Kraft in Germany and have been offering seeds for it in my recent seed offer here. But for 2014 I'm going to have to delete all the seeds from 2008 b'c I have so many ones to list for 2014:

2009 VARIETIES ( 7-10 2008 seeds, double sow )

Giannini, red torpedo shaped plum, not a paste
Moravsky Div, small blocky almost plum, red, PL, very early
Odesskiy Rozovyi ( Odessa Pink), pink beefsteak
Ceman, large pink plums, not a paste
Ludmilla Red Plum, red, not a paste
Ludmilla’s Pink Heart
Lincoln-Adams,lg pink beef
Orange Minsk, large beefsteak
Pervaya Lyubov ( First Love), small pink beefsteaks, some globes, PL
Malinovyi Charodei, pink beefsteaks

Some darn good ones there, I also like Giannini a lot as well as Pervaya Lyubov, and Orange Minsk has become very available.

Carolyn

[dudeatlarge]

Originally Posted by amideutch

You would not be disappointed with Ludmilla's Red Plum and it's OP!

Ami

I want to try these this year since you speak so highly of them. I've found a
couple of sources on the net.
Thanks

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by dudeatlarge

I want to try these this year since you speak so highly of them. I've found a
couple of sources on the net.
Thanks

To locate seed sources I suggest you go first to Tania's superb tomatobase. First, the page for Ludmilla's Red Plum,click on seed sources.

And now the home page for Tania's site if you don't know it:

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Main_Page

There's a tremendous amount of general info there, but to search for a variety clickon shortcuts at the top, then click on alphabetical.

Hope that helps,

Carolyn

[gssgarden]

Bought into Porterhouse a few years back and.......IT SUCKED!!! Poor plants, poor production, nothing big, 4 pounder?? Not with my seeds! Tried for three years including last year and will never try it again.

I admit I got roped into it, but will stick to the peeps here for real results.


Greg

[gardengalrn]

I had thought to try Steakhouse and still might. I'm trying quite a few new ones this year and may not have room. I tried Supersauce last year and while the conditions were poor, the seedlings and plants were puny and weak compared to the others I had growing.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by MR BILL

has anyone tried growing Eastham turnips from cape cod.mr bill milford ct

I'm a bit surprised to find a turnip question in a thread about tomatoes, but to answer your question, nope, I haven't grown the Eastham turnip:

https://www.google.com/#q=eastham+turnip

But have grown the Gilfeather turnip (rutabaga) from not that far away that also has a long history:

http://www.fedcoseeds.com/seeds/search.php?item=2392&

Carolyn

[joebolin]

Hello from sunny California! I started eight of my Supersauce seeds about 3 weeks ago and five have grown. The seedlings are 2 - 3 inches tall now, just developing the second set of leaves. I know it was a couple of years ago for you both, but do you remember what the germination rate was for the Supersauce seeds (at $6.50 for 25 seeds, it might stick in your memory ) and/or what the seedlings looked like? Mine are on the leggy side, but it could just be the early start and short days (we're having warm winter days, so I'm able to put the seedlings out in direct sunlight rather than under lights). Thanks for any guidance you can offer,
Joe Bolin

[Worth1]

I know this sounds stupid but every time I see the title to this thread I want to go to the store and buy a steak.

Worth