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enchant · July 23, 2014

Excellent info. Thanks!

tnkrer · July 23, 2014

Another thread I have been tracking for early tomatoes
The early tomato thread
Amazing comparison data by bower in post # 137

Labradors2 · July 23, 2014

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Originally Posted by tnkrer

Another thread I have been tracking for early tomatoes
The early tomato thread
Amazing comparison data by bower in post # 137

That was a fantastic chart by Bower!

I have to mention that my Russian Cherry went from germination to ready-to-eat in just 100 days!!!

Linda

OldHondaNut · July 25, 2014

I suspect you are interested in early full size tomatoes but I have to toss in Gardeners Delight cherry tomato that is about two weeks earlier than Rutgers. Cherry tomatoes ripen so much quicker.

JamesL · July 25, 2014

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Originally Posted by KarenO

The earliest ripe tomato in my yard this year was from an F2 seedling of a cross I made last year but that doesn't count...yet

If I can stabilize an early delicious slicer I will have the holy grail of Canadian tomatoes.
Karen

Wait a minute, what about us northern (southerners to you) growers in the US?

enchant · July 25, 2014

I have a strain of grape and cherry that are both starting to ripen now. 'bout time.

KarenO · July 25, 2014

even you south of the 49ers can use a short season full size tomato

I have some fun segregation going on in the F2 of one of my crosses.
If I ever get a worthy stable tomato, first dibs on trying it will be offered here on TV guaranteed as it was here that I was inspired to do it.
KarenO

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Originally Posted by JamesL

Wait a minute, what about us northern (southerners to you) growers in the US?

taboule · July 26, 2014

My first one this year was a Bloody Butcher, first year growing it. Planted out early may -we had some frost shortly after, but i covered it and it survived. Picked and ate the first fruit Jul 3rd. One day to spare for the fourth. Tasty but skin a bit tough for me.

I wanted to compare it to Early Treat, a Burpee hybrid (rebrand) of 4th of July. It beat it by 2 weeks or so, grown in somewhat close conditions.

My first big one was a red Brandywine at half a kilo (17.7 oz) that I picked over a week ago. Worth noting I saved the bloom on the plant when I set out mid may. Dont have a pic on this computer, will post it another time. Mother still doing fine and producing.

Everything started from seed.

enchant · July 26, 2014

What the hell? The ugliest tomato in my garden - a Brandywine - has blushed. How did it beat out all those plants that were supposed to ripen earlier? I wasn't expecting a Brandywine for another few weeks.

JamesL · July 26, 2014

Weird ones and damaged ones all tend to ripen sooner. It will be interesting to see if the lobes ripen uniformly.

marc_groleau · July 26, 2014

My first year with Beaver Lodge.
They are the earliest I've ever had. Planted out on May 24, started pick by second week of July. They're very productive as well. The fruit is on the small side bust have big tomato flavor.
They'll be back next year for sure

Lindalana · July 26, 2014

I like WOW and have yet to see a plant that fails to grow there, been using it for quite few years too. So I get 70 days from planting end of April by end of June- beg July. Morvasky Div has been great, early, compact, good for containers, taste great...Out of larger tomatoes my earliest were Biyskaya Roza, Bychie Serdtse, Indian Stripe and Kermit. All of them are great in taste and very productive. Kermit is meaty with very few seeds so it is dream for lovers of chunky salsa or sauce making peeps. Bychie Serdtse is your typical oxheart which I remember from my childhood. I was very pleased how early they all set fruit and how productive they are. Got seeds from Tatiana, except IS which was from Heritage.

RJGlew · July 26, 2014

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Originally Posted by taboule

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I wanted to compare it to Early Treat, a Burpee hybrid (rebrand) of 4th of July. It beat it by 2 weeks or so, grown in somewhat close conditions.
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Court is out on whether Early Treat F1 is simply re-branded Fourth of July F1. An older TV thread exists which discusses this, and when I wrote to Burpee this year they advised me it is similar, but different. I am suspicious so am growing both this summer, right next to each other. The seeds are dramatically different is size (Early Treat F1 are much larger), but the plants are very similar, and their growth/flowering rates are virtually identical. It appears there is some shared lineage, if it truly is not a straight re-brand.

taboule · July 26, 2014

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Originally Posted by JamesL

Weird ones and damaged ones all tend to ripen sooner. It will be interesting to see if the lobes ripen uniformly.

You may be right about that. Also very early for me was a small, misshapen black krim. It turned red shortly after the BB. I let it get very ripe for seeds, by the time I brought it inside and cut it, it started getting funky. Could barely see seeds, i chucked it.

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Would like to read about your results.

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Here' the Brandywine I picked on 7/15. Pretty early for this type in my zone. Scale max'd out at 500g.

JamesL · July 26, 2014

That's a good looking Tom.

July 23, 2014	#16
enchant Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 142	Excellent info. Thanks!

July 23, 2014	#17
tnkrer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: MA 6a/b Posts: 352	Another thread I have been tracking for early tomatoes The early tomato thread Amazing comparison data by bower in post # 137

July 25, 2014	#19
OldHondaNut Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Zone 8a Posts: 120	I suspect you are interested in early full size tomatoes but I have to toss in Gardeners Delight cherry tomato that is about two weeks earlier than Rutgers. Cherry tomatoes ripen so much quicker.

July 26, 2014	#23
taboule Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: MA Posts: 903	My first one this year was a Bloody Butcher, first year growing it. Planted out early may -we had some frost shortly after, but i covered it and it survived. Picked and ate the first fruit Jul 3rd. One day to spare for the fourth. Tasty but skin a bit tough for me. I wanted to compare it to Early Treat, a Burpee hybrid (rebrand) of 4th of July. It beat it by 2 weeks or so, grown in somewhat close conditions. My first big one was a red Brandywine at half a kilo (17.7 oz) that I picked over a week ago. Worth noting I saved the bloom on the plant when I set out mid may. Dont have a pic on this computer, will post it another time. Mother still doing fine and producing. Everything started from seed.

July 26, 2014	#25
JamesL Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 1,992	Weird ones and damaged ones all tend to ripen sooner. It will be interesting to see if the lobes ripen uniformly.

July 26, 2014	#26
marc_groleau Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 444	My first year with Beaver Lodge. They are the earliest I've ever had. Planted out on May 24, started pick by second week of July. They're very productive as well. The fruit is on the small side bust have big tomato flavor. They'll be back next year for sure

July 26, 2014	#27
Lindalana Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 857	I like WOW and have yet to see a plant that fails to grow there, been using it for quite few years too. So I get 70 days from planting end of April by end of June- beg July. Morvasky Div has been great, early, compact, good for containers, taste great...Out of larger tomatoes my earliest were Biyskaya Roza, Bychie Serdtse, Indian Stripe and Kermit. All of them are great in taste and very productive. Kermit is meaty with very few seeds so it is dream for lovers of chunky salsa or sauce making peeps. Bychie Serdtse is your typical oxheart which I remember from my childhood. I was very pleased how early they all set fruit and how productive they are. Got seeds from Tatiana, except IS which was from Heritage.