The fate of Moreton Hybrid UNsealed LOL - Page 2

sirtanon · February 28, 2007

Thank you, Craig. I'll keep my eyes open for them. Do you want any seed saved from any of our growouts sent back?

**nctomatoman** · February 28, 2007

Eric, Jennifer and Alan - please so save seeds from whatever you grow and feel free to share a small sample with me (obviously, my goal is to have so many vials of tomato seed that I can compete with my wife's fabric collection! We will need to reinforce the floors of our upstairs rooms!)

cdntomato · February 28, 2007

Craig, as the daughter of an award-winning quilter, do I ever hear you.

Okay, Carolyn. What's the current, if any, dehybridization status of Jetstar and Supersonic?

Jennifer, closing the closet door to her knitting supplies

**carolyn137** · February 28, 2007

Okay, Carolyn. What's the current, if any, dehybridization status of Jetstar and Supersonic?

****

None that I know of and if you look at the first post in this thread by Mischka he said that Mark Willetts said that those two are fine and two of their top sellers and they don't expewct to see them disappear, or words to that effect.

But how can anyone really predict the future?

I do have one pack each of Supersonic and Jet Star F1's as well as the Moreton Hybrid, so if anyone is interested, fine.

But I do think it's best to concentrate on one variety at a time or the multiple selections for more than one might get a bit hard to handle.

On the other hand as my and Craig's F1 seed ages perhaps it might be worthwhile to grow out an F1 plant of Jet Star and Supersonic just to get the F2 seed, which would extend the seed life of dehybridizing those varieties.

I also would very much appreciate getting back some MH OP when one of you has it stabilized, in the same spirit that I offered my Ramapo seeds to everyone. I wish I could help with growouts, but I just can't these days and you folks know it.

I do think that all three of these Harris varieties are just two parent hybrids in which case you may be as lucky as I was with dehybridizing Ramapo. I could clearly see the one off parent in the F2 but it was pretty much gone by the F3 growout, so I'm told.

Tormato · February 28, 2007

There are plenty of Jet Star F2 and Supersonic F2 seed available, from David (dwlcrl).

Tormato

**carolyn137** · February 28, 2007

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Originally Posted by Tormato

There are plenty of Jet Star F2 and Supersonic F2 seed available, from David (dwlcrl).

Tormato

Good to know for anyone wanting to grow out several F2 plants of one or the other or both of those as long as they have the F1 plants/fruits at the same time to make comparisons for selection.

And since the F1 hybrid seed for both is readily available that shouldn't be a problem.

Thanks

**nctomatoman** · February 28, 2007

Well, now that you mention it, I have Supersonic F1, saved seed (so have F2), and grew out two (so have 2 of the F3).

I've not done anything more with them, but again, if you have room....

sirtanon · March 1, 2007

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Originally Posted by nctomatoman

Well, now that you mention it, I have Supersonic F1, saved seed (so have F2), and grew out two (so have 2 of the F3).

I've not done anything more with them, but again, if you have room....

Well....

As much as Supersonic and Jet Star do sound like nice hybrids, at this point, I'm with Carolyn - One hybrid/dehybridization project at a time, or I'm in trouble

At some later date, perhaps, though.

...and I will definitely share seed on these as the project progresses, and Carolyn, you'll be the first one I send the OP seeds to.

- Eric

oc tony · October 31, 2008

Harris seed is now offering Moreton hybrid tomato seed.

**carolyn137** · October 31, 2008

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Originally Posted by oc tony

Harris seed is now offering Moreton hybrid tomato seed.

Moreton Hybrid is starting to sound like Lazarus to me b'c this is the second time it's come back from the dead if you recall.

Shortly after Moran bought out Harris to from Harris-Moran they said the one parent of Moreton was lost and it was out of production for many years.

Then they found the parent and it appeared again.

I don't know why it was dropped this last time but I'm delighted to see it back again.

For I think that that the three earliest Harris Hybrids of Moreton Hybrid, Supersonic and Jet Star are three of the best tasting hybrids around, bar none, along with blemish free fruits and great production.

There was another one that I loved called Starpack and it went out of production and never came back. Thru some contacts at Harris, which in the meantime had split from Moran and was again independent, I made contact with the tomato hybridiers, well actually the squash hybridizers, who stayed at Moran, and I almost had them convinced to send me the two parents of Starpack, but alas, it never came to be.

Lately I know several folks who are or want to try and dehybridize Supersonic and Jet Star. I still have partial packs of them plus Moreton Hybrid somewhere out in the backroom and that's where they're staying for now.

**Mischka** · December 30, 2008

I know this was mentioned in another thread a while back, but I wanted to resurrect this thread to let folks know that Harris Seed is again offering their classic Moreton Hybrid F1 variety once again.

Moreton Hybrid does consistently well here. I recommend it to anyone growing tomatoes here in the northeast, even if just as a backup for your tasty heirloom types.

http://www.harrisseeds.com/Storefron...hybrid-f1.aspx

cozy · December 30, 2008

Maybe they are more popular than they thought

I ordered them on 11/5, they were placed on back order and I got them yesterday ( 12/29 - shipped on 12/23). Origin = Costa Rica

They may be stocked up now but wanted to pass along.

**carolyn137** · December 30, 2008

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Originally Posted by cozy

Maybe they are more popular than they thought

I ordered them on 11/5, they were placed on back order and I got them yesterday ( 12/29 - shipped on 12/23). Origin = Costa Rica

They may be stocked up now but wanted to pass along.

Cozy , were they at the Harris website back in November? I just got my Harris catalog a few days ago and expected to see them there b'c it had been announced that they were being made available through a cooperative effort with Rutgers University who are trying to seek out older varieties that had gone out of produvtion.

I'm very happy with any and all of the earliest F1's bred by Harris which includes Moreton Hybrid, Supersonic and Jet Star, which I think have some of the best tastes to be found with red hybrids,

cozy · December 31, 2008

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Originally Posted by carolyn137

Cozy , were they at the Harris website back in November?

They were on 11/5.

February 28, 2007	#16
sirtanon Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ (zone 9b) Posts: 796	Thank you, Craig. I'll keep my eyes open for them. Do you want any seed saved from any of our growouts sent back? __________________ I could sail by on the winds of silence, and maybe they won't notice... but this time I think it would be better if I swim..

February 28, 2007	#17
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	Eric, Jennifer and Alan - please so save seeds from whatever you grow and feel free to share a small sample with me (obviously, my goal is to have so many vials of tomato seed that I can compete with my wife's fabric collection! We will need to reinforce the floors of our upstairs rooms!) __________________ Craig

February 28, 2007	#19
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Okay, Carolyn. What's the current, if any, dehybridization status of Jetstar and Supersonic? **** None that I know of and if you look at the first post in this thread by Mischka he said that Mark Willetts said that those two are fine and two of their top sellers and they don't expewct to see them disappear, or words to that effect. But how can anyone really predict the future? I do have one pack each of Supersonic and Jet Star F1's as well as the Moreton Hybrid, so if anyone is interested, fine. But I do think it's best to concentrate on one variety at a time or the multiple selections for more than one might get a bit hard to handle. On the other hand as my and Craig's F1 seed ages perhaps it might be worthwhile to grow out an F1 plant of Jet Star and Supersonic just to get the F2 seed, which would extend the seed life of dehybridizing those varieties. I also would very much appreciate getting back some MH OP when one of you has it stabilized, in the same spirit that I offered my Ramapo seeds to everyone. I wish I could help with growouts, but I just can't these days and you folks know it. I do think that all three of these Harris varieties are just two parent hybrids in which case you may be as lucky as I was with dehybridizing Ramapo. I could clearly see the one off parent in the F2 but it was pretty much gone by the F3 growout, so I'm told. __________________ Carolyn

February 28, 2007	#22
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	Well, now that you mention it, I have Supersonic F1, saved seed (so have F2), and grew out two (so have 2 of the F3). I've not done anything more with them, but again, if you have room.... __________________ Craig

October 31, 2008	#24
oc tony Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: oc ca. Posts: 173	Moreton is back Harris seed is now offering Moreton hybrid tomato seed.

February 28, 2007	#18
cdntomato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kingston, Ontario Posts: 554	Craig, as the daughter of an award-winning quilter, do I ever hear you. Okay, Carolyn. What's the current, if any, dehybridization status of Jetstar and Supersonic? Jennifer, closing the closet door to her knitting supplies

February 28, 2007	#20
Tormato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA Posts: 4,971	There are plenty of Jet Star F2 and Supersonic F2 seed available, from David (dwlcrl). Tormato

December 30, 2008	#26
Mischka Tomatoville® Administrator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Bay State Posts: 3,207	I know this was mentioned in another thread a while back, but I wanted to resurrect this thread to let folks know that Harris Seed is again offering their classic Moreton Hybrid F1 variety once again. Moreton Hybrid does consistently well here. I recommend it to anyone growing tomatoes here in the northeast, even if just as a backup for your tasty heirloom types. http://www.harrisseeds.com/Storefron...hybrid-f1.aspx __________________ Mischka One last word of farewell, Dear Master and Mistress. Whenever you visit my grave, say to yourselves with regret but also with happiness in your hearts at the remembrance of my long happy life with you: "Here lies one who loved us and whom we loved." No matter how deep my sleep I shall hear you, and not all the power of death can keep my spirit from wagging a grateful tail.

December 30, 2008	#27
cozy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: GA Posts: 46	Maybe they are more popular than they thought I ordered them on 11/5, they were placed on back order and I got them yesterday ( 12/29 - shipped on 12/23). Origin = Costa Rica They may be stocked up now but wanted to pass along.