Looking For A 2 Inch Stuffer Tomato added 4" elongated

[GrowSeeds]

Originally Posted by Tom Wagner

I have developed many hollow (Stuffers) over the years. None have been released in the 2 inch size yet.

One that comes to mind in my collection of stuffers is a line that has one to two inch diameter size fruits.
The original hybrid was between Green Bell Tomato and Norelco , the later of which carries frost resistance and non ripening genes. The resulting segregants are many. One in particular is green when ripe, 2 locules, hollow, non ripening and a cute bell pepper shape. It was hard to get the walls of the fruit thin enough to enhance the hollowness. The resulting OP would not be of much interest to anyone but is valuable in making long keeping hybrids, say back to Green Bell Pepper. The hybrid is close to the 2 inch stuffer you may be looking for.

Tom Wagner

Tom thanks for the informatio. I got out a ruler and looked at 2 inches - 1 1/2 inches qnd 1 1/4 inches and to me I think your right a bite size stuffer tomato would be in the 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 inch size. I don't think I would bake them like a bell pepper but lightly bake them like I mentioned so they would have to be thick enough to do that and take the pouring of a hot cheese (cheader). The rest of the items would be servered with vegs at room tempture. Sounds like you are getting close to a real bite size tomato stuffer I take it the flavor isn't there yet. Kinda lost me on the bell pepper reverse relationship.


Andrey_BY thanks for the info

[Tom Wagner]

Andrey,

Looked up this variety in French, but had to translate:

Gogoshary Polysatyi Fruit red of 80 to 90 grams. Native variety of Russia. Gogoshary Striped Fruit red and yellow with pink lines of 150 to 180 grams. Plant of 160 to 170 centimeters of height. Production of 6 kilos by plant. Indeterminate growth. Native variety of Moldavie.

Novogogoshary Does this mean new gogoshary?

This following tomato line has various spellings:

Farshirovochny (Farsitamisele) Farshirovochnyi

Could not get my translator to work on this language:
Huvitav uus kõrgesaagikas sort, mis kasvatakse avamaal ja kilemajas. Keskvalmiv (tõusmetest valmimiseni kulub 110-117 päeva). Tugev ja kõrge taim. Idanevuse % 92. 0,05 g.

For a picture, but it looks like my Schimmeig Stoo:

http://seemnemaailm.ee/eng/index.php?GID=5296

Company is from:

Tartu, Estonia, 50703


e-mail-
seemned@seemnemaailm.ee

A list of their tomato (tomat) varieties and note the interesting names:

Tomat Lja-lja-fa

Tomat Intuitsia (Intuition)

Tomat Kuldne vihm

Tomat Sultan F1

Tomat Funtik F1

Tomat Minigold

Tomat Jaapani Krabi

Margarita F1

Tomat Amulet

Tomat Verlioka F1

Tomat Maailma ime

Tomat Apelsin

Tomat Supersteak F1

Tomat Härja süda

Tomat Hurma

Tomat Banaan Punane Lycopersicon

Tomat Olja F1

TOMAT VISA F1

Tomat Mustlane

Tomat Banaan Oranþikas

Tomat Black Mavr

Tomat Grapefruit

Tomat Jaapani Trüffel

Tomat Kollane Delikatess

Tomat Kollane Piprakujuline

Tomat Kuldne Tarvas

Tomat Must pirn

Tomat Medovaja Kaplja

Tomat Must Gigant

Tomat Must prints

Tomat Piprakujuline Roosa

Tomat Piprakujuline Triibuline

Tomat Rjabtðik

Tomat Sidruni hiid

Tomat Vene must (Black Russian)

Tomat Zolotoi Doþd (Kuldne vihm)

Tomat Must Maur





Price: 6 EEK

[GrowSeeds]

Tom
I went to the site and under the price it says
"Is absent in a warehouse"
Imagine that they got them walking around

[GrowSeeds]

Thanks everyone for the help on the bite size stuffer tomato

I would like to know if their is a elongated about 4" long stuffer tomato. This time I would like to not cook the tomato but insert 1. a stuffed breaded (cornmeal or cracker meal) okra deep fried in olive oil and insert that into the elongated stuffer tomato 2. a stuffed Little Finger eggplant (about a 2 to 3 inch length) breaded as the okra and deep fried in olive oil insert that into the elongated stuffer tomato.

Thanks
John

[Tom Wagner]

I would like to know if their is a elongated about 4" long stuffer tomato.

I have always associated hollow tomatoes with Puffs, Puffers, Pockets and the like. There seems to be quite a history on puffers. My thought is that hollowness in tomatoes is somehow related in its origin. Perhaps a mutation. Read the link below:

http://www.plantphysiol.org/cgi/reprint/14/3/575.pdf

Since puffiness is considered a defect in susceptible varieties, breeders like myself try to breed away from the trait. I have especially seen puffiness in many Roma/San Marzano types over the last 55 years.

Again, like I said, I normally select away from puffiness but occasionally I have crossed slightly hollow Roma types with several stuffing lines. The idea was to get an elongated hollow tomato with a pronounced hollow center. I have those progenies somewhere in my collections, but never felt the need to promote them.

If I get a chance this year, I will grow out a few of my archived seed of those types to see what I have. I will have to collate data on tomatoes... longer than they are wide....and sufficiently hollow, and not just puffy.

Tom

[GrowSeeds]

Tom I thank you for considing to breed this type of stuffer tomato. I like to think of ways tastes might go with a tomato as i like to eat tomatoes. The first two I guess you would call a prototype recipe (LOL as the tomato isn't available yet) would lean to a more old fashion acidic taste. Now read this recipe and put the glaze over chicken fingers and stuff them into maybe a sweeter type tomato - here's the recipe I found on the internet

Cilantro Lime Glaze
Use as a glaze over chicken or pork.

Serves: 4

I N G R E D I E N T S
1/2 cup Honey
1/2 cup Lime Juice
2 tbs. Mustard
2 tbs. Cilantro
(roughly chopped in food processor)
1/4 tbs. Rib Rub (or any premix spice mixture with chiles, pepper, thyme, etc)

I N S T R U C T I O N S
Blend honey, lime juice and mustard; add cilantro and rib rub. Serve at room temperature.

So variations of tastes of the stuffer type tomatoes (in that size and elongated) I think would have a broad coverage of finger types of recipes (chicken, pork chop strips, hambuger rolls, large fantail shrimp, clam strips in rolls, king crab legs[stripped of it's shell] plus vegables like okra, eggplant, and others)

Now having said that Tom i do not know if the 3 to 4 inch elongated would be a profitable venture for you or not as what I might would like to have in a tomato others might not want.

Tom I do not know if Tomatoville has what is called a poll posting or not but if they do this might be a good question to pose as a poll to Tomatoville members on. LOL then again sometimes no one votes on the poll post. Just some thoughts to think about.

[Andrey_BY]

Tom, sorry I somehow missed this your post from the late January.

I know this web-seedshop from Estonia. They import all this varieties from the main Russian seed companies (packet sleeves are the same as in Russia). But they used to translate Russian names for tomato varieties to Estonian language, so here is the place where Michael can easily find Yaponskiy Krab (Japanese Crab) seeds under the Estonian name Tomat Jaapani Krabi

Yes, Novogogoshary means "New gogoshary" and Gogoshary itself is a name of small village in Moldova. There was a very famous Moldovian sweet pepper variety with tomato-shaped flat red fruits called Gogoshary (Гогошары) in USSR times.

Farshirovochnyi means "stuffer" or "for stuffing" in English. This is a Russian CV from seed company Aelita, Moscow

Originally Posted by Tom Wagner

Andrey,

Looked up this variety in French, but had to translate:

Gogoshary Polysatyi Fruit red of 80 to 90 grams. Native variety of Russia. Gogoshary Striped Fruit red and yellow with pink lines of 150 to 180 grams. Plant of 160 to 170 centimeters of height. Production of 6 kilos by plant. Indeterminate growth. Native variety of Moldavie.

Novogogoshary Does this mean new gogoshary?

This following tomato line has various spellings:

Farshirovochny (Farsitamisele) Farshirovochnyi

Could not get my translator to work on this language:
Huvitav uus kõrgesaagikas sort, mis kasvatakse avamaal ja kilemajas. Keskvalmiv (tõusmetest valmimiseni kulub 110-117 päeva). Tugev ja kõrge taim. Idanevuse % 92. 0,05 g.

For a picture, but it looks like my Schimmeig Stoo:

http://seemnemaailm.ee/eng/index.php?GID=5296

Company is from:

Tartu, Estonia, 50703


e-mail-
seemned@seemnemaailm.ee

A list of their tomato (tomat) varieties and note the interesting names:

Tomat Lja-lja-fa

Tomat Intuitsia (Intuition)

Tomat Kuldne vihm

Tomat Sultan F1

Tomat Funtik F1

Tomat Minigold

Tomat Jaapani Krabi

Margarita F1

Tomat Amulet

Tomat Verlioka F1

Tomat Maailma ime

Tomat Apelsin

Tomat Supersteak F1

Tomat Härja süda

Tomat Hurma

Tomat Banaan Punane Lycopersicon

Tomat Olja F1

TOMAT VISA F1

Tomat Mustlane

Tomat Banaan Oranþikas

Tomat Black Mavr

Tomat Grapefruit

Tomat Jaapani Trüffel

Tomat Kollane Delikatess

Tomat Kollane Piprakujuline

Tomat Kuldne Tarvas

Tomat Must pirn

Tomat Medovaja Kaplja

Tomat Must Gigant

Tomat Must prints

Tomat Piprakujuline Roosa

Tomat Piprakujuline Triibuline

Tomat Rjabtðik

Tomat Sidruni hiid

Tomat Vene must (Black Russian)

Tomat Zolotoi Doþd (Kuldne vihm)

Tomat Must Maur





Price: 6 EEK