Pleated Tomatoes

[charline]

I had Accordion last season and it was very pretty and a good producer. Very good in salads but not good enough for me to eat right from the vine as I like to do.

[LindyAdele]

that looks so cool! I love it. Hmm. Might be adding to my list, thanks!

[MrBig46]

Voyage
Vladimír

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by charline

I had Accordion last season and it was very pretty and a good producer. Very good in salads but not good enough for me to eat right from the vine as I like to do.

Charline, it should not be called Accordion and here's why and I found out by doing a LOT of Googling since I'd never heard of a Yellow Accordion.

This is what it should be called:

http://www.tomatogrowers.com/RUFFLED...ductinfo/5428/

And here's why.

First the Google Search:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...rdian+tomatoes

And from that search the one from Mandy's Greenhouse, please see #25 on her list:

http://mandysgreenhouse.com/heirloom...-seed/yellows/

I couldn't understand how a Yellow Accordion could be from a Pink Accordion, genetically, when I finally decided that the Original Yellow Ruffled was given the name Yellow Accordion, but it really was just a seed vendor here and there who wanted to emphasize the pleated nature of Yellow Ruffled by changing the name to add Accordion.


Tania comes close to it as:

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Ruffled_Orange

Known since 2007.

I hope that helps.

Carolyn

[charline]

Carolyn, I got the seeds from a seed vendor here in Europe so I kept that name. And it is also listed at semeurs and at ventmarin as Accordeon. without the mention yellow

http://www.semeur.fr/wiki/index.php?...e_Accordeon_Op

http://ventmarin.free.fr/passion_tom.../accordeon.htm

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by charline

Carolyn, I got the seeds from a seed vendor here in Europe so I kept that name. And it is also listed at semeurs and at ventmarin as Accordeon. without the mention yellow

http://www.semeur.fr/wiki/index.php?...e_Accordeon_Op

http://ventmarin.free.fr/passion_tom.../accordeon.htm

I looked at both places, Ventmarin I know the best and also your link to semur.

And at both places it was called Pale Yellow Accordion, aka Accordian, and at one of those links it was also described as being orange/ yellow.

So, as for me I still believe it is:

http://www.tomatogrowers.com/RUFFLED...ductinfo/5428/

And the word Accordion was added to emphasize the ribbing as I posted above,

When I Google just Accordion this is what I get.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=accordion+tomato

So Pale Yellow Accordion found at both of your links I think should be Ruffled Yellow with no Accordion attached to the name.

And I'm not that bad in reading French, especially when it comes to tomatoes,but don't ask me to speak it,

Carolyn

[pmcgrady]

Zapotec from day one...
Costoluto Genovese
Goldman's Italian American

[Father'sDaughter]

I grew what Brokenbar (Mary) labelled Venetian Marketplace which I would definitely call pleated. She posted that she saved the seeds from a tomato purchased in a marketplace in Venice. The Costolutos are what I consider ribbed.

It was pink, large, pleated and dry (but not really hollow). The plants was thick stemmed and very stalky. The branches were almost brittle and would snap if I tried to tie them up to the stake. They also grew in a funny U shape -- down from the stem and then looping back up. The number of fruit was low, but each weighed about a pound. And some of the pleats were so deep that there was almost a channel in the surface where they overlapped. Does this sound at all like any of the pleated ones someone has grown?

[barefootgardener]

I was having a senior moment and then the light bulb went off.. Here is Sierra Leone. It is a beautiful, large, red ribbed/pleated tomato that is somewhat hollow inside. It has a fair amount of meat, few seeds and the fruit have a mild-good flavor. It was very productive for me. Makes a better stuffing tomato, although I did throw the fruit in with a mix of tomatoes to make into some sauce.

Seed originally came from West Africa.. Hence the name

Ginny

[heirloomtomaguy]

I think the closest variety to the ones you posted pics of is called Golden Accordian. https://www.victoryseeds.com/mobile/...accordion.html

[Salsacharley]

Purple Calabash is a good one. I also got a White Calabash from Edible Antiques.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by heirloomtomaguy

I think the closest variety to the ones you posted pics of is called Golden Accordian. https://www.victoryseeds.com/mobile/...accordion.html

I wrote a semi-long post about this one, then a window came up saying I needed to shut down b/c my AVG needed to be updated and sure, I could say in so many hours I'll do it but decided to do it ASAP.

I love my WIN Home Premium 7, but don't like it when I try to shout down for night and find that there X number of updates, and can't shut down until those are done. In previous MS versions I've used you had an option of when you could do it, like the next day or so,

OK, I'll stop my whining now, at least about this issue.

Carolyn

[gorbelly]

What happened to Sweet Ozark Orange? I just saw it on Reinhard's site thanks to Carolyn.

Google shows a lot of buzz around it a couple years ago, but there don't appear to be any commercially available seeds. Is this still being worked on?

(As a side note, I think a sign that you have the tomato bug bad is when you start seeking out sites in foreign languages. I am spending WAYY too much time reading about tomatoes.)

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by gorbelly

What happened to Sweet Ozark Orange? I just saw it on Reinhard's site thanks to Carolyn.

Google shows a lot of buzz around it a couple years ago, but there don't appear to be any commercially available seeds. Is this still being worked on?

(As a side note, I think a sign that you have the tomato bug bad is when you start seeking out sites in foreign languages. I am spending WAYY too much time reading about tomatoes.)

Sam Wommack, a long time friend of mine, has been making a free offer for SOO in the trade section here at Tville and continues to do so. I was also listing it in my seed offer but let Sam do his offer and the folks could get another variety from me and their SSO from Sam directly.

Tania lists it, seeds from me, and is selling seeds for it:

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...t_Ozark_Orange

I don't know if it's the weather but what she shows is not what most folks get for it and if you look at Sam's thread where he offers seeds I think you ll see some pictures.

If not, the top row from Google IMAGES shows several pictures from Sam himself labelled DG ( Daves Garden) where this whole project of his started and many of us grew out the F2 and F3, etc. seeds to help him out. And there was a naming contest at DG and SOO was the winning name.

I know I sent seeds to several other places but there's usually a lag time before any place can produce enough seed to allow for seed selling,

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...+orange+tomato

Above a straight Google search for it, but not all the seed comapnies I send seeds for trial would appear in a Google search.

What really ticked me off is that Sam lives less than an hours drive from Baker Creek and really wanted to place it with them. When he called on the phone nothing happened so he drove there and still no one wanted to talk to him about it.

Sam is one of THE nicest persons ever. For many years he was the head of a police Dept in S Cal and then moved back home to the Ozarks in retirement. At DG he was always talking about the carrot cake that his wife made, so I said, welllllll, send one up, and a couple of years later here comes the UPS truck with a big box and in it was a huge carrot cake he had sent from a place in Raleigh, NC that advertises the World's BEsT Carrot Cake, and it was darn good, but oh my, the price he paid.

Carolyn

[Gardeneer]

Ruffled, pleated, ribbed, ridged .....

I have a heart shaped one which is more pleated when small and green but as it ripens the blossom end gets smooth but the stem end remains pleated.