Stump of the World - The Answer to THAT Question... - Page 2

Grub · January 27, 2007

Cla asked:

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How would this tomato handle high temps humid conditions mid summer, say 90-100 night lows 69-78?

Brilliantly! Grub is in coastal Sydney, hot and humid. So make a spot for your Stumps of the World now...

remy · January 27, 2007

I'll say it again(I've been saying it awhile), I love Stump!
Cla,
It did very well compared to other tomatoes two years ago which was the hottest summer(there was a long stretch of days over 90) we've ever had here.
Remy

PNW_D · January 27, 2007

[only a whisker behind the big three]

Grub, did I miss your top three post?

I assume one is GMPLG

Ruth_10 · January 27, 2007

CLa, I have grown Stump here for the last couple of years and it took the hot and humid weather well. For me, it was not quite as productive as BW Sudduth or Earl's Faux but still did fine. The taste was similar (i.e., wonderful).

Thomas · January 28, 2007

PV

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note: the fact that Big Ben/Stump and Brandywine arrived mixed in the same pack raises some other issues, but the fact remains, this bit of history is really cool.

Get those tracer tests done yet?

You might have let the stump outa the bag

travis · January 30, 2007

Thomas,

I checked in the SSE 2006 Yearbook, and all three tomatoes named Big Ben are large pink beefsteaks on regular leaf vines.

One entry indicates the original source is B. Quisenberry, and the other two types are said to have come from SSE Tomato #329 and Tomato #330.

So, I guess my interpretation of the GW message was wrong, and Keith's read on Ettlinger's anecdote it is correct.

I'm laying this issue to rest regarding Big Ben being Stump OTW. Obviously it's not.

PV

Thomas · January 30, 2007

Oh well, it gave us something to talk about.

tjg911 · January 31, 2007

Good to hear your Stump of the World comments Grub. I rate SOTW as one of my top 10 tomatoes.

Tom

sic transit gloria · January 31, 2007

Papa Vic,

Yes, that is some very cool history. Is there a definitive list of tomato varieties that Ben Quisenberry introduced or in some way helped preserve for future growers? Here's all I could find:

Bear Claw
Brandywine (his personal favorite)
Golden Sunray
Czech's Bush
Long Tom
Stump of the World
Tiger Tom
Big Ben
Long Tom
Red Cup
Mortgage Lifter
Marglobe
Czech’s Excellent Yellow
Goldie
Gold Medal
Large Red Cherry
Ruby Gold (bicolor, maybe the same as Gold Medal??)
Tasty Evergreen
White Beauty

Any others? Also, which Mortgage Lifter was the one he saved/distributed?

travis · January 31, 2007

STG,

Yes, it would seem from your thorough list that you have read the messages over at another Website where, last Sept. 14, VGary, Louisville, posted this message:

Ben T. Quisenberry -- One man's efforts to preserve old tomato varieties. I hope you enjoy reading about his contributions to preserving Heirloom Tomatoes. I grew Bear Claw this year and it was great. I have grown his Stump of the World tomato. I am beginning a listing of tomato seed varieties he grew and pass them along here. If anyone here knows of any please, feel free to list them. Perhaps we can help carry on the tradition of saving some of his tomato varieties.
Gary/Louisville
Mr. Ben T. Quisenberry (1887-1986)
http://www.purewatergazette.net/quisenberry.htm

The Gazette is honored to give its Hero Award posthumously to Mr. Ben T. Quisenberry, who died in 1986 at age 99. Mr. Quisenberry lived in and operated a tiny mail-order seed company called Big Tomato Gardens out of a small building that had been an old post office in Syracuse, Ohio. He printed his own seed packets, complete with mottoes, on an old printing press.

Read more about Ben Quisenberry in My Secret Life as a Farmer -- On Seeds and Unsung Heroes
[http://www.purewatergazette.net/secret.htm

Ben T. Quisenberry Tomato Varieties ----

Bear Claw
Brandywine (his personal favorite)
Golden Sunray
Czech's Bush
Long Tom
Stump of the World
Tiger Tom
Big Ben
Long Tom
Red Cup
Mortgage Lifter
Marglobe

And then Gary's message was followed by this message posted by hoosiercherokee:

Mr. Quisenberry also is credited with these tomatoes from his collection:
Czech’s Excellent Yellow
Goldie
Gold Medal
Large Red Cherry
Ruby Gold (bicolor, maybe the same as Gold Medal??)
Tasty Evergreen
White Beauty

Some may be alternate names for some of the other's on Gary's list ... I don't really know ... but these are also varieties I've found attributed to Ben Quisenberry's collection.

Looks like you have pretty much covered everything on those two lists. Maybe another T'ville member can add to this list of tomatoes collected by that wonderful gentleman, Ben Quisenberry.

PV

OneoftheEarls · March 1, 2009

Researching Big Ben pulled up seeds for sale at Tomato Bobs as well as Stump of the World....so is it agreeable yet that BB is RL and Stump in PL?

I am growing both in different locations and can add my observations this fall.

OneoftheEarls

**carolyn137** · March 1, 2009

I think it would be useful for anyone interested in more recent discussions of Big Ben vs Stump of the World vs Brandywine to read at two places.

First, in the Forum here at Tville titled Legacy Tomatoes, the thread on Ben Quisenberry whose grandson started posting there recently and second, a long recent thread at GW:

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...276235.html?42

And with regard to the varieties in Ben Quisenberry's tomato seed collection, which was left to SSE when he passed on, and several posts above speak to what Ben had, there's a big difference between varieties that originated with Ben versus those varieties that he happened to have in his collection at the time.

Earl, one of them,

I think if you read the above, both here at Tville and also that GW thread, which I think you know about already, I don't think there is absolute consensus that Stump is PL while Big Ben is RL, and note Craig's post in the thread here at Tville as well.

camochef · March 1, 2009

Hey guys,
I grew Stump of the world (P.L.), last year, and while it wasn't a bad tomato, it wasn't good enough to be invited back again this year. Of course last year wasn't a great year here for tomatoes.
I'm done planting seed for this season, but may have to give it a try again next year.
Oh boy, I just planted seeds less than a week ago, and now I'm already planning for the following year!
I do need help!
Camo

duajones · March 2, 2009

SOTW was one of my better tomatoes last year, fairly productive too. Growing it again this year

newatthiskat · March 2, 2009

I am going to try it this year.

Hope I don't manage to kill it

Kat

January 27, 2007	#17
remy Buffalo-Niagara Tomato TasteFest™ Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Z6 WNY Posts: 2,354	I'll say it again(I've been saying it awhile), I love Stump! Cla, It did very well compared to other tomatoes two years ago which was the hottest summer(there was a long stretch of days over 90) we've ever had here. Remy __________________ "I wake to sleep and take my waking slow" -Theodore Roethke Yes, we have a great party for WNY/Ontario tomato growers every year on Grand Island! Owner of The Sample Seed Shop

January 27, 2007	#18
PNW_D Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Coast, Canada Posts: 961	[only a whisker behind the big three] Grub, did I miss your top three post? I assume one is GMPLG __________________ D.

January 27, 2007	#19
Ruth_10 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MO z6a near St. Louis Posts: 1,349	CLa, I have grown Stump here for the last couple of years and it took the hot and humid weather well. For me, it was not quite as productive as BW Sudduth or Earl's Faux but still did fine. The taste was similar (i.e., wonderful). __________________ --Ruth Some say the glass half-full. Others say the glass is half-empty. To an engineer, it’s twice as big as it needs to be.

March 1, 2009	#27
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	I think it would be useful for anyone interested in more recent discussions of Big Ben vs Stump of the World vs Brandywine to read at two places. First, in the Forum here at Tville titled Legacy Tomatoes, the thread on Ben Quisenberry whose grandson started posting there recently and second, a long recent thread at GW: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/l...276235.html?42 And with regard to the varieties in Ben Quisenberry's tomato seed collection, which was left to SSE when he passed on, and several posts above speak to what Ben had, there's a big difference between varieties that originated with Ben versus those varieties that he happened to have in his collection at the time. Earl, one of them, I think if you read the above, both here at Tville and also that GW thread, which I think you know about already, I don't think there is absolute consensus that Stump is PL while Big Ben is RL, and note Craig's post in the thread here at Tville as well. __________________ Carolyn

March 2, 2009	#30
newatthiskat Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: texas Posts: 1,451	reply I am going to try it this year. Hope I don't manage to kill it Kat

January 30, 2007	#21
travis Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 2,984	Thomas, I checked in the SSE 2006 Yearbook, and all three tomatoes named Big Ben are large pink beefsteaks on regular leaf vines. One entry indicates the original source is B. Quisenberry, and the other two types are said to have come from SSE Tomato #329 and Tomato #330. So, I guess my interpretation of the GW message was wrong, and Keith's read on Ettlinger's anecdote it is correct. I'm laying this issue to rest regarding Big Ben being Stump OTW. Obviously it's not. PV

January 30, 2007	#22
Thomas Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 180	Oh well, it gave us something to talk about.

January 31, 2007	#23
tjg911 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: zone 5b northwest connecticut Posts: 2,570	Good to hear your Stump of the World comments Grub. I rate SOTW as one of my top 10 tomatoes. Tom

January 31, 2007	#24
sic transit gloria Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: KS 5b/6a Posts: 249	Papa Vic, Yes, that is some very cool history. Is there a definitive list of tomato varieties that Ben Quisenberry introduced or in some way helped preserve for future growers? Here's all I could find: Bear Claw Brandywine (his personal favorite) Golden Sunray Czech's Bush Long Tom Stump of the World Tiger Tom Big Ben Long Tom Red Cup Mortgage Lifter Marglobe Czech’s Excellent Yellow Goldie Gold Medal Large Red Cherry Ruby Gold (bicolor, maybe the same as Gold Medal??) Tasty Evergreen White Beauty Any others? Also, which Mortgage Lifter was the one he saved/distributed?

March 1, 2009	#26
OneoftheEarls Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Up North Posts: 660	Researching Big Ben pulled up seeds for sale at Tomato Bobs as well as Stump of the World....so is it agreeable yet that BB is RL and Stump in PL? I am growing both in different locations and can add my observations this fall. OneoftheEarls

March 1, 2009	#28
camochef Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gettysburg, Pennsylvania Posts: 707	Hey guys, I grew Stump of the world (P.L.), last year, and while it wasn't a bad tomato, it wasn't good enough to be invited back again this year. Of course last year wasn't a great year here for tomatoes. I'm done planting seed for this season, but may have to give it a try again next year. Oh boy, I just planted seeds less than a week ago, and now I'm already planning for the following year! I do need help! Camo

March 2, 2009	#29
duajones Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Corpus Christi,Texas Z9 Posts: 1,996	SOTW was one of my better tomatoes last year, fairly productive too. Growing it again this year