Worth's Octopuses Garden in the Shade.

[Worth1]

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

Slugs, Snails ?? Bad news. They love shade and wetness.
We have perfect weather for them slugs. Fighting them is an uphill battle. Especially with veggies, when they are small. You have to kill them (one way or the other) to reduce population ;
bait, bamboo skewer, salt shaker, beer(that is fancy ), nylon tulle...
I will try some bread yeast in water, to see if they are attracted to its smell.
Gardeneer

you need to add sugar to it too so it will ferment.

Even some cooked rice sugar water and yeast will work.

Your basically making cheap hooch.

Worth

[MarlynnMarcks]

Rhubarb is heaven on earth. Rhubarb custard pie is my fav. Look up the recipes for it on the internet and you will be glad you did. Yes, it is sour, that is why you use it with sugar (NOT SALT!)
It is also called "The Pie Fruit" which should give you a clue to its use.

[Worth1]

Look my mother grew the stuff, she did a good job of cooking it.
I ate it all of the time growing up.

I seriously dont need anything else I need to add sugar to.

Worth

[MarlynnMarcks]

use Splenda

[Worth1]

Originally Posted by MarlynnMarcks

use Splenda

No way on earth will I use that stuff or any other sweetener like that.
I have tried them all.
I dont even like strawberries unless they are the real thing and not home grown.
Some how I have an aversion to anything sour at all.
If it is too sweet I dont like it.
Something like Goldie Locks and the three bears it has to be just right.

Worth

[seaeagle]

I use Stevia to sweeten Coffee and Tea and things like that.It is not sweet like sugar, but I use a half of packet of Stevia and sometimes if I want to make it sweet like sugar just add a very small amount of sugar, a little dab on the tip end of a spoon.

Stevia has been used for thousands of years in some countries and for over a hundred years in Japan with no adverse affects.(So why did it take the FDA so long to approve it, while they rushed these potentially dangerous artificial sweeteners along?Maybe because there was no patent involved and it was a natural source.)

Anyway, the only potential side affect of Stevia is that it may lower blood pressure and may be helpful for glycemic control in diabetics.

http://authoritynutrition.com/why-is...-good-for-you/

[Worth1]

Originally Posted by seaeagle

I use Stevia to sweeten Coffee and Tea and things like that.It is not sweet like sugar, but I use a half of packet of Stevia and sometimes if I want to make it sweet like sugar just add a very small amount of sugar, a little dab on the tip end of a spoon.

Stevia has been used for thousands of years in some countries and for over a hundred years in Japan with no adverse affects.(So why did it take the FDA so long to approve it, while they rushed these potentially dangerous artificial sweeteners along?Maybe because there was no patent involved and it was a natural source.)

Anyway, the only potential side affect of Stevia is that it may lower blood pressure and may be helpful for glycemic control in diabetics.

http://authoritynutrition.com/why-is...-good-for-you/

It would probably be the only one I would use.


Worth

[Gardeneer]

Originally Posted by Worth1

you need to add sugar to it too so it will ferment.

Even some cooked rice sugar water and yeast will work.

Your basically making cheap hooch.

Worth

Yeah, thanks . I want to entertain them slugs real good.
So you can add a dash of sugar, now and then, to keep fermentation going. Any starch will also do. They make vodka from potato. The question is : Will the slugs be attracted to it ? .
We shall see.
Gardeneer

[Worth1]

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

Yeah, thanks . I want to entertain them slugs real good.
So you can add a dash of sugar, now and then, to keep fermentation going. Any starch will also do. They make vodka from potato. The question is : Will the slugs be attracted to it ? .
We shall see.
Gardeneer

The big difference between baking yeast and yeast you use to make alcohol is the strain bread yeast dies out quicker in the alcohol but it will still make what the slugs want.

I had an explosion outside making it last summer.
Worth

[Gardeneer]

Originally Posted by Worth1

The big difference between baking yeast and yeast you use to make alcohol is the strain bread yeast dies out quicker in the alcohol but it will still make what the slugs want.

I had an explosion outside making it last summer.
Worth

Right. Even there are different strains of yeast for wine making. They have different yeasts for high alcohol wines. I have brewed wine quite few times but nothing higher than 13% alcohol.
So yes, bread yeast will do fine.

Gardeneer

[Father'sDaughter]

Originally Posted by seaeagle

I use Stevia to sweeten Coffee and Tea and things like that.It is not sweet like sugar, but I use a half of packet of Stevia

I'm a stevia fan myself, but you still need to be careful and read labels! The article linked below talks about what else you'll get in a packet of the various stevia brands. The last paragraph mentions the Trader Joe's organic stevia "nutritional supplement" which is all my husband and I use. It contains nothing but pure stevia leaf extract. It's about ten bucks for a small bottle, but when you see the size of the teeny-tiny spoon in the bottle and learn that one of those spoons equals the sweetness of a teaspoon of sugar, it's really pretty affordable. As a bonus, the label easily peels off the bottle and with its dual-sided spoon/sprinkle cap, it's perfect for storing your home ground pepper powders!

https://www.truthinadvertising.org/e...tevia-product/

[seaeagle]

Originally Posted by Father'sDaughter

I'm a stevia fan myself, but you still need to be careful and read labels! The article linked below talks about what else you'll get in a packet of the various stevia brands. The last paragraph mentions the Trader Joe's organic stevia "nutritional supplement" which is all my husband and I use. It contains nothing but pure stevia leaf extract. It's about ten bucks for a small bottle, but when you see the size of the teeny-tiny spoon in the bottle and learn that one of those spoons equals the sweetness of a teaspoon of sugar, it's really pretty affordable. As a bonus, the label easily peels off the bottle and with its dual-sided spoon/sprinkle cap, it's perfect for storing your home ground pepper powders!

https://www.truthinadvertising.org/e...tevia-product/

You are exactly right, I use the packets and I have all that stuff in mine.I always look at ingredients and when i saw those extras I looked to see why and I think I remember they are used as fillers to give the packet some volume, otherwise it would look like it was nothing in there.I went to the store and I looked in the artificial sweeteners and they all have the same things in them.

Yes it is deceptive.Just like all the items that have 0 trans fat, but a lot of that is a lie too.The FDA says you can have a certain amount of trans fat in a product and still put zero in the label.Sometimes I wonder whose side those guys are on.

[Worth1]

I'll put this picture in the octopus thread.
While buying onion sets I picked up a good hoe I always wanted a planting trowel and my okra and sweet pea seeds plus snow peas.
Worth
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[Gardeneer]

That should keep you busy for a while, Worth. hehe
How much did you pay for onion starts, BTW ? They look fresh and nice.
Yeah, time to sow the sweet peas. Too early for okra , though, me thinks. What is the variety ?
I have very limited experience with growing okra bur I love the stuff. Actually I am cooking some right now. I have no idea where it comes from. @ $3/lb ??

Gardeneer

[Worth1]

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

That should keep you busy for a while, Worth. hehe
How much did you pay for onion starts, BTW ? They look fresh and nice.
Yeah, time to sow the sweet peas. Too early for okra , though, me thinks. What is the variety ?
I have very limited experience with growing okra bur I love the stuff. Actually I am cooking some right now. I have no idea where it comes from. @ $3/lb ??

Gardeneer

I paid $1.99 a bunch for them and if you look at the onion thread you will see they are already planted.
I didn't waste any time doing it the wind was howling and it was cold but I was in my shirt sleeves.

The okra is cow horn and long pod green.
You have to hit that place early or you wont find anything most of the people that go there know what they are doing and the place was packed with folks buying stuff.
Old school farm supply and hardware store.
That is why I bought the okra seeds some of them will go in the beds where I pull out the onions in May I hope.
That would be a little over 100 days.