self pollinating cucumbers - Page 2

**carolyn137** · July 3, 2016

In my above post I forgot to add that cukes are cucurbits,as are squash,so most save cuke seed the same way you would squash seed,and that's by letting the mature squash seeds just dry.

Mainly seeds that have gel capsules need to be fermented.

I think the following link is very good but they suggest allowing g cuke seeds to sit in a jar first and I never did that at all with no problems.

http://www.seedsave.org/issi/904/experienced.html

Carolyn

NewWestGardener · July 3, 2016

Carolyn, do you mean parthenocarpic varieties can develop viable seeds on their own, without a daddy? Like komodo dragons?
I did not think that was possible so i assumed they must have been cossed. I do see the offsprings have both boys and girls, and fruits-- is that still partheocarpic or regular now?

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Originally Posted by carolyn137

Just repeating what you posted in post #7

(A bit off topic here. Last fall, i found a mature old en F1 cucumber in the greenhouse with a belly full of seeds, it must have been pollinated by some other variety, so i saved some and planted some this year. The seedlings came up nicely and transplanted well, so we'll see what i'll get out of them. The F1 production was impressive)

With parthenocarpic varieties,tomatoes included, at first they have just wisps of undeveloped seeds but as they mature fully formed viable seeds are formed and that's great since how else are parthenocarpic varieties going to be perpetuated?

For sure they are going to rebreed them as I see it and just my opinion,perhaps,after being up close and personal with all the parthenocarpic tomato ones that Dr. Baggett bred and feedback from those who grew them.

Carolyn

ddsack · July 1, 2016

I'll be waiting to hear what you get, NewWest!

I was going to check for any possible seeds late in the season last year after I moved them out to the garden, but time got away from me and by the time I remembered, the weeds had swallowed the dried up vines and any cucumbers had long turned to mush. I had another potted variety in the area too, so any dried seeds scraped off the ground would have been unidentifiable.

If you find you like your F2's, I'll try to find a Picolino to save this fall.

NewWestGardener · July 2, 2016

Ddsack,
I checked the cukes today. The F2s are doing surprisingly well-- i already have a 2" fruit on a 9" vine. More importantly, there are multiple flowers, both male and female forming on every leaf node, starting from the first true leaves all the way up, 3-4 flower buds per node. It looks like the vines are going to be small but loaded. I will try to save seeds from the best again.

QUOTE=ddsack;574220]I'll be waiting to hear what you get, NewWest!

I was going to check for any possible seeds late in the season last year after I moved them out to the garden, but time got away from me and by the time I remembered, the weeds had swallowed the dried up vines and any cucumbers had long turned to mush. I had another potted variety in the area too, so any dried seeds scraped off the ground would have been unidentifiable.

If you find you like your F2's, I'll try to find a Picolino to save this fall.[/QUOTE]

bower · July 2, 2016

I have one called "Diva" this year - never grown it before. Seeds were not expensive - it was a two dollar packet from Halifax Seed with I think 20 seeds in it..
I've grown Carmen before and one other whose name I forget, paid a dollar per seed for those.

**carolyn137** · July 2, 2016

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Originally Posted by bower

I have one called "Diva" this year - never grown it before. Seeds were not expensive - it was a two dollar packet from Halifax Seed with I think 20 seeds in it..
I've grown Carmen before and one other whose name I forget, paid a dollar per seed for those.

http://www.johnnyseeds.com/p-5540-diva.aspx

Above is a link to Johnny's Selected seeds and the company was started by Rob Johnston,and it was his wife,I forget her name right now,who bred Diva.

Yes,I've grown this one as well.

All of the self pollinating ones I know of are parthenocarpic.

Which reminds about a prior post by I think gorbelly,who found lots of seeds in an overripe fruit, I forget which variety.The same thing happens to the parthenocarpic ones that Dr.Bagget bred,tomatoes,for the PNW.Few immature seeds while the fruits are young,but when overmature,lots of seeds.

Carolyn

ddsack · July 3, 2016

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Originally Posted by NewWestGardener

Ddsack,
I checked the cukes today. The F2s are doing surprisingly well-- i already have a 2" fruit on a 9" vine. More importantly, there are multiple flowers, both male and female forming on every leaf node, starting from the first true leaves all the way up, 3-4 flower buds per node. It looks like the vines are going to be small but loaded. I will try to save seeds from the best again.

That's great to hear! Early, prolific and short vines are what I'd be searching for too! Hope my success will mirror yours.

Cole_Robbie · July 1, 2016

I love Sweet Success. It's the only cuke I like to eat.

Gerardo · July 1, 2016

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Originally Posted by Cole_Robbie

I love Sweet Success. It's the only cuke I like to eat.

You're gonna dig the Super Zagross. Smooth, refreshing, crisp.

peppero · July 1, 2016

Thanks for so many replies. I really appreciate it. This year I am growing five varieties. My yield has been five with three not yet picked and none to brag about I will try sweet success. Thanks again

Jon

greenthumbomaha · July 2, 2016

Some time ago a poster showed photos of a cucumber that he/she was growing indoors under lights during the winter. I don't think it was hand pollinated. The poster had a few cucumbers produced during the winter, which attracted my attention. It sounded like a pretty amazing feat to me. I'm not certain but I think it was Diva.

For me cucumbers are feast or famine due to the cucumber beetle or if powdery mildew sets up residence.

- Lisa

bower · July 3, 2016

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Originally Posted by greenthumbomaha

Some time ago a poster showed photos of a cucumber that he/she was growing indoors under lights during the winter. I don't think it was hand pollinated. The poster had a few cucumbers produced during the winter, which attracted my attention. It sounded like a pretty amazing feat to me. I'm not certain but I think it was Diva.

For me cucumbers are feast or famine due to the cucumber beetle or if powdery mildew sets up residence.

- Lisa

That was me, actually.

The name of it finally came to me - it was Passandra F1. They were good but I hope Diva is even better. Nice to see it was bred at Johnny's, they do a great job of selecting good varieties.

greenthumbomaha · April 30, 2017

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Originally Posted by greenthumbomaha

Some time ago a poster showed photos of a cucumber that he/she was growing indoors under lights during the winter. I don't think it was hand pollinated. The poster had a few cucumbers produced during the winter, which attracted my attention. It sounded like a pretty amazing feat to me. I'm not certain but I think it was Diva.

For me cucumbers are feast or famine due to the cucumber beetle or if powdery mildew sets up residence.

- Lisa

This reminds me to start some asap. Any tips for keeping powdery mildew at bay when growing indoors?

BigVanVader · July 2, 2016

I tried Sweet Success this year after reading many good reviews here. I have them in my mini-tunnel and they have produced insanely well. Unfortunately I was dumb and planted a non hybrid pickling cuke in there as well and they crossed. Next year I'm doing all seedless cukes. The one Carolyn posted looks like a good pickler, might try it.

Gerardo · July 3, 2016

Earlier today I gently potted up two Sweet Success and two Manny F1. Succession planting has really helped, as has setting them under shade.

Calypso, Monika, Super Zagross, Manny and Sweet Success are still in the game for me.

July 3, 2016	#1
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	In my above post I forgot to add that cukes are cucurbits,as are squash,so most save cuke seed the same way you would squash seed,and that's by letting the mature squash seeds just dry. Mainly seeds that have gel capsules need to be fermented. I think the following link is very good but they suggest allowing g cuke seeds to sit in a jar first and I never did that at all with no problems. http://www.seedsave.org/issi/904/experienced.html Carolyn __________________ Carolyn

July 1, 2016	#3
ddsack Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northern Minnesota - zone 3 Posts: 3,231	I'll be waiting to hear what you get, NewWest! I was going to check for any possible seeds late in the season last year after I moved them out to the garden, but time got away from me and by the time I remembered, the weeds had swallowed the dried up vines and any cucumbers had long turned to mush. I had another potted variety in the area too, so any dried seeds scraped off the ground would have been unidentifiable. If you find you like your F2's, I'll try to find a Picolino to save this fall. __________________ Dee **************

July 2, 2016	#4
NewWestGardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 564	Ddsack, I checked the cukes today. The F2s are doing surprisingly well-- i already have a 2" fruit on a 9" vine. More importantly, there are multiple flowers, both male and female forming on every leaf node, starting from the first true leaves all the way up, 3-4 flower buds per node. It looks like the vines are going to be small but loaded. I will try to save seeds from the best again. QUOTE=ddsack;574220]I'll be waiting to hear what you get, NewWest! I was going to check for any possible seeds late in the season last year after I moved them out to the garden, but time got away from me and by the time I remembered, the weeds had swallowed the dried up vines and any cucumbers had long turned to mush. I had another potted variety in the area too, so any dried seeds scraped off the ground would have been unidentifiable. If you find you like your F2's, I'll try to find a Picolino to save this fall.[/QUOTE]

July 2, 2016	#5
bower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 6,794	I have one called "Diva" this year - never grown it before. Seeds were not expensive - it was a two dollar packet from Halifax Seed with I think 20 seeds in it.. I've grown Carmen before and one other whose name I forget, paid a dollar per seed for those.

July 1, 2016	#8
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	I love Sweet Success. It's the only cuke I like to eat.

July 1, 2016	#10
peppero Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: selmer, tn Posts: 2,944	Thanks for so many replies. I really appreciate it. This year I am growing five varieties. My yield has been five with three not yet picked and none to brag about I will try sweet success. Thanks again Jon

July 2, 2016	#11
greenthumbomaha Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Omaha Zone 5 Posts: 2,514	Some time ago a poster showed photos of a cucumber that he/she was growing indoors under lights during the winter. I don't think it was hand pollinated. The poster had a few cucumbers produced during the winter, which attracted my attention. It sounded like a pretty amazing feat to me. I'm not certain but I think it was Diva. For me cucumbers are feast or famine due to the cucumber beetle or if powdery mildew sets up residence. - Lisa

July 2, 2016	#14
BigVanVader Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Greenville, South Carolina Posts: 3,099	I tried Sweet Success this year after reading many good reviews here. I have them in my mini-tunnel and they have produced insanely well. Unfortunately I was dumb and planted a non hybrid pickling cuke in there as well and they crossed. Next year I'm doing all seedless cukes. The one Carolyn posted looks like a good pickler, might try it.

July 3, 2016	#15
Gerardo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Diego-Tijuana Posts: 2,598	Earlier today I gently potted up two Sweet Success and two Manny F1. Succession planting has really helped, as has setting them under shade. Calypso, Monika, Super Zagross, Manny and Sweet Success are still in the game for me.