Some under rated/ reported growers should try - Page 2

NarnianGarden · July 29, 2016

That's interesting, Carolyn.

What would you say based on your experience is a 'good' season for hairy fairies? Hot/dry or more humid weather?
This summer has been hot and humid (meaning, more diseases for gardeners), I don't remember exactly how hot it was two years ago when I grew Garden peach.. very moody, probably .. GP had some BER (more than most 20+ varieties I had that year), but the taste was lovely and refreshing.

Ideally, one should plan their growing list based on weather predictions in order to select varieties best suited for those conditions, but until those predictions are reliable enough, it's just trial and prayer.

BlackBear · July 30, 2016

Wow....thanks for the tips all ....

all the ones mentioned are worth an extra look !

I am growing Fuzzy Wuzzy this year and it is a " winner"

I am inspired to try Kitayskiy Oksamitovy ...next year as well.

I think I will also have to try Clear pink early and Tasenko-6 next year also.

I had a plant of polish egg and now have seeds for next year from Solana Seeds
I sure hope they are the same thing ...it was much better than expected and prolific ....which I took for granted at the time ...I know better now.

PhilaGardener · July 30, 2016

I champion Chalk's Early Jewel. Its a fine heirloom that originated not far from here in Norristown PA. It is one of my first to bear and prolific too, and I'm glad to keep the local connection going.

Lindalana · July 30, 2016

Grew Carbon and Terhune, both are excellent for me as well. Shirley S has similar to Terhune sweetness for me, love it.
Hmm, there are lots of tomatoes I think should be grown more/ known more. From this year so far
Alex Popovich Yugoslavian new medium red, t-a-s-t-y!
Altai Orange great early orange
Aunt swarlo polish plum- uber big and dry for sauces
Bychiy myod- hear shaped, compact
Bear Creek- super tasty
Black Magic- fav from last year. Just great

Babushkina Radost- your old fashioned large slicer beef. Translates Grandma happiness.
Bychyi Lob- has yellow shoulder and distinct acidity/sweetness balance. Compact

Blue sky- this is probably most loaded black tomato I have seen, together with 1884 purple
Byiskaya roza- must grow

Chilikskie- loaded plum and sweet. Excellent.
Dusya Krasnaya- early det. Full flavor
Detsikas- early big red.
Debbie Blackburn- am sure Debbie will find her way in my garden many times more, superb taste
Gritsyk- loaded barrel/ heart, tasty.
GGWT- superb find
Guido- last year Fav. Red, super flavor.
Galina Red- last year's one, midseason. Keeper
Gloria- superb productive heart.
Klara- large red, bit on a later side.
klein early- round red, early enough to be a excellent keeper
koroleva- fav from previous years. Early enough pink with full sweet taste
Liz Bert- large red.
Mama Alla- one of fav hearts. Compact, very tasty
Mom's heart- large heart, meaty
Mikhalych- probably your idea of old fashioned "how it was" tomato
Mayo delight- excellent large vigorous heart
Noire charbonneus- superb black
Pale perfect purple- round, is midseason for me, excellent taste
raspberry giant- Keeper
Raspberry Supreme- beats Rasp giant in earliness and production
Sakharnyi Bizon- yum heart
Sereginy- last year find

Shirley S- sweet, tasty
Terhune
tsarskiy lubimets- you want to have this one. Huge beef. Midseason
Tsar kolokol- last years fav. Heart, Many.
Sabrina- very short, super compact, early round red.Loaded
Serbian oxheart- midseason heart, medium size, but super productive
wild fred- last year fav
VB Russia- productive and sweet
Yablochnyi Lipetskiy- yep, keeper. Taste is just great
1884 purple- loaded black

BlackBear · July 31, 2016

ah ha ! keep it coming good tips to research out ...

I have Klein early .,,,,

and pale perfect purple and wild fred....

I have been looking closely considering Guido ......

Sun City Linda · July 31, 2016

I agree Tarasenko 6 is very productive and tastes fine.

BlackBear · July 31, 2016

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Originally Posted by Sun City Linda

I agree Tarasenko 6 is very productive and tastes fine.

ok ok ...I'll order it today ......LOL

MikeInCypress · July 31, 2016

Atkinson & Picardy do super well in my garden. Atkinson is right up there with Big Beef in production and they have the old fashioned tomato taste that I like. Picardy is an indeterminate but has a huge 1st flush of fruit and is great for canning. It's been around for over a hundred years. A tip of the hat to Earl for singing its praises about 10 years ago.

MikeInCypress

NarnianGarden · July 31, 2016

A little detail I noticed about FW:
Because I have a bad habit of plucking dead / old flowers off tomatoes, I did the same with my Fuzzy Wuzzy, and found out that its flowers are very firmly attached to the ovary, more than other varieties I have seen.
The tiny fruit / fertilized ovary came off with the flower.. so I learned not to mess with them in any way, lol. That was more than just once... until i got the message..
Let the nature take its course ..

**carolyn137** · July 31, 2016

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Originally Posted by NarnianGarden

That's interesting, Carolyn.

What would you say based on your experience is a 'good' season for hairy fairies? Hot/dry or more humid weather?
This summer has been hot and humid (meaning, more diseases for gardeners), I don't remember exactly how hot it was two years ago when I grew Garden peach.. very moody, probably .. GP had some BER (more than most 20+ varieties I had that year), but the taste was lovely and refreshing.

Ideally, one should plan their growing list based on weather predictions in order to select varieties best suited for those conditions, but until those predictions are reliable enough, it's just trial and prayer.

Sorry I'm so late in getting back to you and please don't laugh when I say it's the environmental conditions in any one season.

For me,both the gold/red bicolors and the matte-surfaced ones,don't do well in seasons when it's on the cool side and too much rain.

Big plants but taste of fruits is lousy, aka BAD.

Carolyn

BlackBear · July 31, 2016

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Originally Posted by carolyn137

Sorry I'm so late in getting back to you and please don't laugh when I say it's the environmental conditions in any one season.

For me,both the gold/red bicolors and the matte-surfaced ones,don't do well in seasons when it's on the cool side and too much rain.

Big plants but taste of fruits is lousy, aka BAD.

Carolyn

Blackbear of the wet coast rain forest goes ...AH HA !

good tip to consider!

NarnianGarden · July 31, 2016

Our summer weather has been both sunny and humid... diseases have loved it, not sure about tomatoes! ..
Very curious now about FW taste, more so than others... (No, to be honest, I am equally curious about Artisan varieties and GGWT..)

BlackBear · July 31, 2016

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Originally Posted by MikeInCypress

Atkinson & Picardy do super well in my garden. Atkinson is right up there with Big Beef in production and they have the old fashioned tomato taste that I like. Picardy is an indeterminate but has a huge 1st flush of fruit and is great for canning. It's been around for over a hundred years. A tip of the hat to Earl for singing its praises about 10 years ago.

MikeInCypress

Picardy came up on a recent search for "compact indeterminate" for me and was placed in the " most interesting " short list ...good to hear that someone else has
identified it as well.

wildcat62 · July 31, 2016

I'll nominate Zeke Dishman for a spot next year. It will have a spot in my garden. Sorry...I just saw you wanted compact. ZD isn't that.

BlackBear · July 31, 2016

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Originally Posted by wildcat62

I'll nominate Zeke Dishman for a spot next year. It will have a spot in my garden. Sorry...I just saw you wanted compact. ZD isn't that.

I think this discussion /thread was just to

make growers aware of some Tomato varieties that people feel are under rated or under reported and throw them out there ..... as interesting to look into.
Zeke Dishman sounds interesting as you say it is one you think of in this sense.

July 30, 2016	#17
BlackBear Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2015 Location: Nanaimo , BC Posts: 961	Wow....thanks for the tips all .... all the ones mentioned are worth an extra look ! I am growing Fuzzy Wuzzy this year and it is a " winner" I am inspired to try Kitayskiy Oksamitovy ...next year as well. I think I will also have to try Clear pink early and Tasenko-6 next year also. I had a plant of polish egg and now have seeds for next year from Solana Seeds I sure hope they are the same thing ...it was much better than expected and prolific ....which I took for granted at the time ...I know better now. __________________ So Many Tomatoes ...So Little Time !

July 31, 2016	#20
BlackBear Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2015 Location: Nanaimo , BC Posts: 961	ah ha ! keep it coming good tips to research out ... I have Klein early .,,,, and pale perfect purple and wild fred.... I have been looking closely considering Guido ...... __________________ So Many Tomatoes ...So Little Time !

July 31, 2016	#23
MikeInCypress Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 963	Atkinson & Picardy do super well in my garden. Atkinson is right up there with Big Beef in production and they have the old fashioned tomato taste that I like. Picardy is an indeterminate but has a huge 1st flush of fruit and is great for canning. It's been around for over a hundred years. A tip of the hat to Earl for singing its praises about 10 years ago. MikeInCypress __________________ "Growing older, not up"

July 29, 2016	#16
NarnianGarden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Finland, EU Posts: 2,550	That's interesting, Carolyn. What would you say based on your experience is a 'good' season for hairy fairies? Hot/dry or more humid weather? This summer has been hot and humid (meaning, more diseases for gardeners), I don't remember exactly how hot it was two years ago when I grew Garden peach.. very moody, probably .. GP had some BER (more than most 20+ varieties I had that year), but the taste was lovely and refreshing. Ideally, one should plan their growing list based on weather predictions in order to select varieties best suited for those conditions, but until those predictions are reliable enough, it's just trial and prayer.

July 30, 2016	#18
PhilaGardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Near Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,940	I champion Chalk's Early Jewel. Its a fine heirloom that originated not far from here in Norristown PA. It is one of my first to bear and prolific too, and I'm glad to keep the local connection going.

July 30, 2016	#19
Lindalana Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 857	Grew Carbon and Terhune, both are excellent for me as well. Shirley S has similar to Terhune sweetness for me, love it. Hmm, there are lots of tomatoes I think should be grown more/ known more. From this year so far Alex Popovich Yugoslavian new medium red, t-a-s-t-y! Altai Orange great early orange Aunt swarlo polish plum- uber big and dry for sauces Bychiy myod- hear shaped, compact Bear Creek- super tasty Black Magic- fav from last year. Just great Babushkina Radost- your old fashioned large slicer beef. Translates Grandma happiness. Bychyi Lob- has yellow shoulder and distinct acidity/sweetness balance. Compact Blue sky- this is probably most loaded black tomato I have seen, together with 1884 purple Byiskaya roza- must grow Chilikskie- loaded plum and sweet. Excellent. Dusya Krasnaya- early det. Full flavor Detsikas- early big red. Debbie Blackburn- am sure Debbie will find her way in my garden many times more, superb taste Gritsyk- loaded barrel/ heart, tasty. GGWT- superb find Guido- last year Fav. Red, super flavor. Galina Red- last year's one, midseason. Keeper Gloria- superb productive heart. Klara- large red, bit on a later side. klein early- round red, early enough to be a excellent keeper koroleva- fav from previous years. Early enough pink with full sweet taste Liz Bert- large red. Mama Alla- one of fav hearts. Compact, very tasty Mom's heart- large heart, meaty Mikhalych- probably your idea of old fashioned "how it was" tomato Mayo delight- excellent large vigorous heart Noire charbonneus- superb black Pale perfect purple- round, is midseason for me, excellent taste raspberry giant- Keeper Raspberry Supreme- beats Rasp giant in earliness and production Sakharnyi Bizon- yum heart Sereginy- last year find Shirley S- sweet, tasty Terhune tsarskiy lubimets- you want to have this one. Huge beef. Midseason Tsar kolokol- last years fav. Heart, Many. Sabrina- very short, super compact, early round red.Loaded Serbian oxheart- midseason heart, medium size, but super productive wild fred- last year fav VB Russia- productive and sweet Yablochnyi Lipetskiy- yep, keeper. Taste is just great 1884 purple- loaded black

July 31, 2016	#21
Sun City Linda Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: SoCal Inland Posts: 2,705	I agree Tarasenko 6 is very productive and tastes fine.

July 31, 2016	#29
wildcat62 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2014 Location: Zone 6 Northern Kentucky Posts: 1,094	I'll nominate Zeke Dishman for a spot next year. It will have a spot in my garden. Sorry...I just saw you wanted compact. ZD isn't that.