Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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October 25, 2016 | #16 |
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For small cherries on rampant plants, the red Matt's Wild Cherry has big-tomato flavor, while the Russian Mini Yellow is super sweet. Rancho Solito is my favorite red cherry, unless it rains, when it cracks terribly. Tami G is my favorite grape. KBX is the best orange. Wes is the best red heart. Druzba is a reliable, tasty red ball. And Girl Girl's Weird Thing is a gorgeous, and delicious, tomato. For sauce, I love Orange Banana. Is that enough?
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October 26, 2016 | #17 | |
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October 26, 2016 | #18 |
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Crnkovic Yugoslavian, Cowlick's BW, Terhune (both the standard PL and the RL "Terhune Competition" thanks AkMark!!!), Chapman, and Daniels were the stars of 2016.
Stay tuned, there's a few left to be evaluated Thanksgiving time. PS Zamorano deserves honorable mention too. |
October 26, 2016 | #19 |
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I dont have one except the one in my plate or hand.
The best way I can describe my feelings is from two things. A bird in the hand beats two in the bush. The other is that tale of the dog that saw his reflection in the water. He opened his mouth to get the bigger bone from the other dog to only lose his bone. Worth |
October 26, 2016 | #20 |
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I know you just asked for one, but I figured this might give you a better idea what I mean. (I think Matina is probably my favorite, so far.)
Favorites for taste (in order of preference): Early Girl F1, Green Giant, McGee, Medovaya Kaplya, Ron's Carbon Copy, Pink Stuffer, Pruden's Purple, Matina, Ovita, Paul Robeson, Chocolate Pear, Persimmon (some fruits on Jackie and Gardener's Delight definitely compete for the top few, but only some fruits were like that; one Cherokee Green Pear tomato with BER did, too) Favorites for productivity (in order of preference): Yellow Pear, Red Pear, Matina, Roma, Thessaloniki, Early Girl F1, Pink Cheeks, Cuostralee Favorites for earliness (no order of preference): Early Girl F1, Husky Cherry Red F1, Chocolate Pear, Matina, Mountain Princess, Galapagos Island, Jackie Favorites for early flowers: Chocolate Pear, Sutton's Best of All Favorite larger tomatoes for earliness: Creole, Aussie, Pruden's Purple Favorites for ripening speed after fruit set (in no order): Pink Cheeks, Galapagos Island, Matina, Early Girl F1, Husky Cherry Red F1, Chocolate Pear, and others Favorite for fastest plant growth: Amana Orange (the plant went from small to huge very fast) Favorites for fast fruit growth after fruit set: Celebrity F1 Favorites for largest size: Cuostralee, Chapman, George Detsikas Italian Red Favorites for firmness, ease of handling, and fruit manageability: Thessaloniki, Creole, Yellow Trifele, Market Wonder Favorites for firm texture that contributes to taste appeal: Thessaloniki, Creole, Big Sungold Select Favorites for soft texture that contributes to taste appeal: Matina (earlier fruits were firm), Ron's Carbon Copy Favorites for sweetness (in order of preference): Ron's Carbon Copy, Medovaya Kaplya, Monroe, Jackie, Gardener's Delight, Malinovoe Chudo, Cherokee Green Pear Favorites for acidity (in order of preference): Early Girl F1, McGee, Missouri Pink Love Apple Favorites for tanginess: Matina, Persimmon Favorites because they felt extra nutritious (in order of preference): Early Girl F1, Pruden's Purple, McGee, Jackie, Chocolate Pear Favorites for producing all season: Matina, Early Girl F1, Husky Cherry Red F1, Roma, Galapagos Island, Black Plum, Yellow Pear, Red Pear, Thessaoniki, Jackie Favorites for heat tolerance in dry conditions (I would add more to the list, but I watered a lot this year): Early Girl F1, Galapagos Island, Black Plum, Roma, Lemon Boy F1, Husky Cherry Red F1, Yellow Pear, Red Pear Favorites that seem like they would taste great on a tuna sandwich: Chapman, Pink Cheeks Favorites for manageability of the plant: Payette, Roma, Husky Cherry Red F1, Galapagos Island, Maglia Rosa, Early Girl F1, Golden King of Siberia, Celebrity F1 Favorite taste when refrigerated: Valencia Favorite taste on a hamburger: Pruden's Purple Favorite taste when cooked (in order of preference), of those I tried without other varieties mixed in: Peaceful Valley's Beefsteak (including on pizza), Cuostralee Most attractive foliage color: Medovaya Kaplya Favorite for raw juice: Green Giant Favorite for shock value (due to appearance and/or taste): Tlacalula Ribbed (Zapotec looks the same), Green Giant, Girl Girl's Weird Thing, Pink Berkeley Tie Die, Purple Bumble Bee, Ron's Carbon Copy, Ovita, Medovaya Kaplya, Big Sungold Select, Chapman, George Detsikas Italian Red, Cuostralee, Early Girl F1 (the taste was pretty shocking in our yard in 2014; I hope that continues if I grow it more), Golden King of Siberia, Pomodoro San Marzano, Ovita Favorite mealy tomato (it still tastes good when mealy): Yellow Trifele, Missouri Pink Love Apple Favorites for fruit visibility on the vine: Golden King of Siberia, Galapagos Island, Thessaloniki Favorites that others liked a lot (in no particular order): Matina (this one had the most comments in 2016), Ovita, Husky Cherry Red F1, Thessaloniki, Green Giant (this had the most comments in 2015), Medovaya Kaplya, Big Sungold Select, Early Girl F1 Favorite leaf smell: Caro Rich, Tangerine, Monroe Favorites for fruit appearance: Golden King of Siberia, Chapman, Girl Girl's Weird Thing, George Detsikas Italian Red, Big Sungold Select, Maglia Rosa (when not over-ripe), Yellow Trifele, Yellow Pear, Green Pear, Ron's Carbon Copy Favorites for fruity taste: Jackie (late in the season), Glacier (really the smell more than the taste), Cherokee Green Pear (especially on fruit with BER) Favorites for production despite being smothered or more crowded: Girl Girl's Weird Thing, Cherokee Green Pear, Green Pear, Big Sungold select, Malinovoe Chudo, Yellow Ruffled, Yellow Trifele, Black Giant, Mexican Yellow, Seek No Further Love Apple, Burgundy Traveler, Giant Belgium, Zapotec Pink Pleated, Thessaloniki, Sweet Ozark Orange, Valencia, Sutton's Best of All, Celebrity F1 Favorites on problematic ground: Maglia Rosa, Galapagos Island, Monroe, Market Wonder Favorites for vining all over and producing tomatoes in various locations: Sweet Orange Cherry, Yellow Riesentraube, Yellow Ruffled, Green Pear, Cherokee Green Pear, Cuostralee Favorite for escaping the tomato jungle and producing fruit outside it (far from where it was planted, growing through the thickest smothering/smothered tomato territorty): Purple Bumble Bee Favorite for fruiting indoors: Galpagos Island Favorite for branching often and early: Galapagos Island Favorites for thick leaf cover: Amana Orange, Matina, Legend and probably lots of others It should be noted that not all tomatoes people call Roma seem to be the same. Mine came as a plant from The Home Depot (bonnieplants.com tags), and were pointed. The uncaged plants seemed to be trying to stay within a 1.5 to 2 foot square area, per plant; each plant naturally grew on top of itself (this was very interesting tomato behavior that I hadn't seen before 2014), but they produced a lot. It should also be noted that I didn't get fruit on Caro Rich and Tangerine (it was probably something in the soil), so they may or may not have been favorites in more categories had they been planted in other locations. Pink Berkeley Tie Dye and Amana Orange are still ripening they're first fruits (yes, we've had some frosts, but they survived, somehow) Aussie, Creole, Legend and others probably would have made it to more categories if they hadn't been smothered after producing their first fruits. I haven't tasted Legend, yet, to my knowledge, but it did have fruit early on. It should be noted that I had more tomatoes for some categories, but they were either F2+ hybrids, unknown varieties, or accidental crosses. Last edited by shule1; October 26, 2016 at 12:03 PM. |
October 26, 2016 | #21 |
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Its a green golden and red striped beefsteak, purple fleshed, really strong and robust healthy vine, gets to about 6' in my garden, RL, very productive, gorgeous, absolutely delicious. Bill, pm me if you would like some seeds to try her.
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October 26, 2016 | #22 | |
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October 26, 2016 | #23 | |
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Craig L had nothing to do with Eva. http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Eva_Purple_Ball I got it from Joe Bratka, and convinced him to join SSE and paid his membership,which he did for just one year,not just his style, so it was Joe and myself who first SSE listed Eva Purple Ball before Jeff McCormackever did at SESE, and probably we both sent it to Jeff,that could be true.. Switching topics,I'm with Bill in that my best varieties change almost every year, and that b/c I get sent new varieties from all over the place each year for my seed offer. All to say there will NEVER be the perfect variety, IMO, after growing now over 4k plus varieties myself,and now my seed producers do that for me from the seeds that I source from everywhere, especially Europe for this past summer growouts since there LOTS of varieties that most folks know nothing about. And the real plus for me has been making many wonderful friends in countries such as Denmark, Belgium,France, Spain, Germany, Poland,Romania, Slovenia,Italy, The Czech Republic, Greece and several more.Learning about their faves,their cultures,their fave foods,how they celebrate holidays,etc. I stopped several years ago stating which ones I like the best,but always ask the person what they are looking for,which colors,shapes,tastes,early,mid or late season,indet,det., leaf form, etc. That makes it easier for those answering to make some informed selections. Always new one,yes. Carolyn
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October 26, 2016 | #24 |
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Historically, I am a big fan of Pineapple for size, beauty, texture, and flavor.
This year the favorites in my garden all-around for productivity, beauty, and taste were Girl Girl's Weird Thing, Blue Sky and Shirley S. Blue Sky was my most productive, but it didn't have ruffled shoulders as described on Tatiana's site and I couldn't find much about it elsewhere. Of the three Shirley S. was my absolute favorite. It was always the first I would grab for a sandwich or Caprese salad when I wanted the tomato flavor and texture to shine in a dish. |
October 27, 2016 | #25 | |
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October 27, 2016 | #26 | |
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Like SunGold. And so many mentioned above are just not good for me having grown them 3-5 years hoping for maybe a better year... I have been growing 50+ varieties every year...and just can't help myself to start seedlings when i have the packet in hand. Every season we discuss at home to slow down varieties and just stick with the tried-and-true dozen goodies. We plan to GirlGirl at least a dozen plants 2017 season to satisfy that beauty need. That leaves lots of room for other trials for a varied plate. |
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October 27, 2016 | #27 |
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Shule1, re Thessaloniki: where did you get your seeds? Did your plants produce large or small fruit?
I got seeds from Sustainable Seed Co. three years ago and was bitterly disappointed. The plant produced small saladette sized fruit with thick skins and a mealy texture. http://sustainableseedco.com/heirloo...ato-seeds.html Baker Creek lists it as a medium sized tomato. http://www.rareseeds.com/thessaloniki-tomato/ Last year a local nursery, Annie's was offering Thessaloniki plants for sale that appeared to be an entirely different plant, with photographs of huge palm-sized slicers. http://www.anniesannuals.com/plants/view/?id=2056 I'm tempted to buy their plants this year, but fear they may be misidentified. Which is the right Thessaloniki? Annie's sure sounds tempting! |
October 27, 2016 | #28 | |
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Or just put a request in the wanted forum. Or join the MMMM. I think Muddy Bucket Farms Seed might have them, not sure. Yes, Ted is selling them.http://heritageseedmarket.com/index....y-bucket-farm/ |
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October 27, 2016 | #29 | |
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Mine were quite large (probably between eight to eighteen ounces each, but most were somewhere in the middle of that). I got mine from here. Somewhat bigger than baseball size is about right, I guess, on average. Mine were later than advertised (maybe near the end of the midseason before I got any fruit), but most things were later than advertised in the garden, this year (with the exception of a few tomatoes, including a few that were earlier than advertised). My Thessaloniki fruits were all round (not at all beefsteak shaped). I'm not sure that my fruits had a shelf life any longer than average for a tomato that doesn't split or such (but the fruits do give the impression of being able to keep well by the look and feel of them). The skin did not seem overly thick to me (perhaps about normal), but I wasn't paying attention to how thick the skin was. Thessaloniki didn't have any mealy tomato for me (but many large tomato varieties did), this year. The Thessaloniki fruits seemed pretty much the same as the Creole fruits, interestingly (size, shape, texture), which I got from the same place. Creole was significantly earlier for me, though (but I'm not sure of its productivity, yet, due to TBR growing over it). Creole was heat-tolerant. Last edited by shule1; October 27, 2016 at 12:30 PM. |
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April 23, 2017 | #30 |
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Gardener's Delight did best for me.
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