General information and discussion about cultivating all other edible garden plants.
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December 31, 2017 | #16 |
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Andrey, they all are so good looking. Which ones are the tastiest and the most productive? I too live in a cool climate.
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January 2, 2018 | #17 |
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I DO NOT recommend Blacktail Mountain. It has never grown well for me here in Northern Colorado. I've tried it several years in a row. Still was pitiful. It may have originally been bred in Idaho, but the seed for it is now grown in Missouri and the south U.S. and is not adapted to northern gardens anymore. A breeding collaborator of mine in Northern Utah also does NOT recommend Blacktail mountain. It does not grow for us.
My picks are Sweet Dakota Rose, Yellow Doll, and Early Moonbeam (dehybridized yellow doll by Alan Kapuler). Last edited by Keen101; January 2, 2018 at 07:45 PM. |
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The seed for it is NOT grown in MO and the south US. If you go to Glenn's website you can see where he said HE planted it on such and such a date in 2016, etc. So yes, Glenn in IA is still growing his own seed. I think you may have confused him with Fusion in Alabama who does grow cotton and peanuts and more for Glenn. As for your collaborator in Utah, I think you mean Dale Thurber,but maybe Joseph, but I can't remember right now where he is from without checking. I can agree with your Yellow Doll, very much so for I've grown that one a lot,but all should know it's an F1 hybrid if that's an issue for some. Glenn lists several short season ones, that I've grown,there are many more I haven't grown, but of those I've grown I can suggest. Cream of Saskatchewan and Orengeglo. The reason Glenn lists so many melons is b/c for many years he was the Curator of Cucurbits For SSE. But no more. Carolyn, watching the temp plunge lower and lower.
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January 2, 2018 | #19 |
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I'm in northern Minnesota, and Blacktail Mountain has done very well for me here for the past three years. Started early in 4" pots in a greenhouse about three weeks before setting out. Fruit ripe by late August/early September. I got my seed from Sand Hill Preservation, and plan to grow it again.
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Btw,I have grown Orangeglo and liked it quite well. I’m not sure how they’d do in your climate though,we have long hot summers. I’m looking for a melon that doesn’t split as much because last year they split badly with our big thunderstorms last summer. Which is a huge bummer,watching them get big,nearly ready and then splitting in half. The goats and horses sure enjoyed them. I might consider putting low tunnels over the plants later in the season just to keep them drier. Last edited by Tracydr; January 2, 2018 at 06:39 PM. |
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January 2, 2018 | #21 | |
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https://www.rareseeds.com/blacktail-...in-watermelon/ http://www.southernexposure.com/blac...1-g-p-361.html |
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January 3, 2018 | #22 | |
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January 6, 2018 | #23 |
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Wow- I had thought about buying some Blacktail Mountain seed from Baker Creek but I think I'll try to find a Canadian source from a cooler climate!
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January 6, 2018 | #24 | |
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Dutch P.S. My garden soil is amended Dolomite Clay.
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January 8, 2018 | #25 |
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Hey thanks so much- pm incoming!
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January 11, 2018 | #26 |
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Sweet Dakota Rose is my go to here in Northern Wyoming. People really are happy to find our plants at our annual plant sale. I grew Cream of Sask. years ago. It was good but split very easy. We had a long growing season that year, so we got lucky. I tried Blacktail Mountain for a few years and quit when Sweet Dakota Rose became available.
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January 12, 2018 | #27 |
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Thanks for that, I hadn't ever seen that one before. Adding it to my list. My grandfather is from Park County- that's rugged country you're growing in!
EDIT: It would appear that I missed seeing Dakota Rose in Keen's post! Boy there are a ton of cool weather melons. Last edited by SuntannedSwede; January 12, 2018 at 10:30 PM. |
January 13, 2018 | #28 |
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Early varieties are usually with compromise taste.
Full taste varieties are always mid late and late. The tastiest from Soviet/Russian watermelon varieties is Kholodok. It is the king of farmer markets here in the late September-October. They come from the South of Russia (Astrakhan, Volgograd and Kuban regions). A good keeper with a great skin color and a very sweet pinky-red flesh. Like it very much and always waiting for autumn time because of Kholodok.
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1 kg=2.2 lb , 1 m=39,37 in , 1 oz=28.35 g , 1 ft=30.48 cm , 1 lb= 0,4536 kg , 1 in=2.54 cm , 1 l = 0.26 gallon , 0 C=32 F Andrey a.k.a. TOMATODOR Last edited by Andrey_BY; January 13, 2018 at 02:50 AM. |
January 13, 2018 | #29 |
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What a beauty! That shape is very special, isn't it?
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January 13, 2018 | #30 |
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Good luck with whatever you try! I personally find the yellow fleshed varieties taste better than the reds usually regardless of size. One guy even tested his watermelon once. He said he had a red fleshed watermelon at 14 brix, and a yellow at 10 brix, but despite the brix the yellow one tasted sweeter to his tongue. lol.
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