Tasmanian Chocolate - Page 2

**Lee** · May 7, 2019

Most likely user error since a cross would have had to have been with another dwarf, brown tomato as to have maintained the homozygous recessive genes with a heterozygous leaf shape in the resulting hybrid grown last year.

Did you grow a brown, potato leaf dwarf two years ago?

Lee

Scooty · May 7, 2019

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Originally Posted by greenthumbomaha

I am sorting out plants for shares and noticed that from a dozen Tasm Choc transplants I have three that are clearly PL. A quick search doesn't indicate any PL in the parentage. I will plant the PL myself for curiosity, but is this user error or could it be an unexpected mutation/cross?

- Lisa

I've gotten dwarf project mutants from seed purchased directly Victory, Sample, and Heritage. I've gotten mutants from shares. It happens. Mutants are for the project probably 1/50 or 1/60 of the seeds I germinate (random guesstimate for me at least), but when I get mutants, it's a fair bet that a large percentage from the originating seed bag are also mutants.

Sometimes they really good mutants. Sometimes they are complete spitters. I sent Craig fruit from a red Sean's Yellow Dwarf mutant a while back. Similar to Sweet Scarlet in taste but more mild. There are off-type red/pink Sweet Sue that have appeared in grow outs.

PL and RL are the easy ones to catch. The ones not so easy are when you grow out a single type and try to figure out if they are "correct to type." Russian Swirl and Whereotokai, all the black/purples, etc...

This year I had Crimson Sockeye mutants, RL Japanese Black Triffle, and a few others that I don't recall.

greenthumbomaha · May 7, 2019

Most likely my error then, Lee. These were seeds from the mmmm swap, so only time will tell if it crossed as you described.
I'm also growing Russian Swirl and Whereotokai, so plenty of opportunity for additional scrutiny when those ripen.
- Lisa

Scooty · May 7, 2019

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Originally Posted by greenthumbomaha

Most likely my error then, Lee. These were seeds from the mmmm swap, so only time will tell if it crossed as you described.
I'm also growing Russian Swirl and Whereotokai, so plenty of opportunity for additional scrutiny when those ripen.
- Lisa

To me at least, Russian Swirl is much preferred over Whereotokai.

ContainerTed · May 8, 2019

For the record, the spelling is "Wherokowhai".

May 7, 2019	#16
Lee Tomatopalooza™ Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NC-Zone 7 Posts: 2,188	Most likely user error since a cross would have had to have been with another dwarf, brown tomato as to have maintained the homozygous recessive genes with a heterozygous leaf shape in the resulting hybrid grown last year. Did you grow a brown, potato leaf dwarf two years ago? Lee __________________ Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put one in a fruit salad. Cuostralee - The best thing on sliced bread.

May 8, 2019	#20
ContainerTed Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 6a - NE Tennessee Posts: 4,538	For the record, the spelling is "Wherokowhai". __________________ Ted ________________________ Owner & Sole Operator Of The Muddy Bucket Farm and Tomato Ranch

May 7, 2019	#18
greenthumbomaha Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Omaha Zone 5 Posts: 2,514	Most likely my error then, Lee. These were seeds from the mmmm swap, so only time will tell if it crossed as you described. I'm also growing Russian Swirl and Whereotokai, so plenty of opportunity for additional scrutiny when those ripen. - Lisa