The reason for Brandywine sudduth's poor yield - Page 2

harleysilo · July 15, 2008

this is a good quick read http://www.agrisupportonline.com/Art...n_tomatoes.htm

Patapsco Mike · July 15, 2008

FWIW here on the west side of Baltimore, in Zone 7, my Brandywine Suddeth (obtained indirectly through Suze I believe) has set over 20 fruits already. I picked the first one two days ago, ate it last night, and it was amazingly good. I would describe it as almost 'creamy-' soft, but not mushy nor grainy/crunchy, sweet, just divine! I would say my BWS has just about as many fruits set as any of my 7 other (non cherry) heirlooms.

harleysilo · July 15, 2008

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/02/di...=1&oref=slogin musty feet lol

BigdaddyJ · July 15, 2008

Carolyn, yes I am aware it was Craig who supplied Johnny's with Sudduth Seed, that's why I've been ordering Sudduth from Johnny's ever since. And yes I am aware that other vendors now sell true Sudduth. I am partial to Johnny's as they have earned my trust for over 15 years now. Before I could get Sudduth I got my Brandywine seeds from Burpee's. Hey, experience is the best teacher...

I am also aware of the OTV newsletter and your long history with Craig. I have been GW many years now. Previously I had a different name but for about 5 or 6 years now I've used this bigdaddyj moniker. (long story why the name change)

WVTomatoMan · July 15, 2008

harleysilo - During hot humid weather different types of molds can set in on cracked fruit around here. If that is what you are experiencing I don't blame you for discarding the fruit, I do too when that happens.

Randy

harleysilo · July 15, 2008

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Originally Posted by WVTomatoMan

harleysilo - During hot humid weather different types of molds can set in on cracked fruit around here. If that is what you are experiencing I don't blame you for discarding the fruit, I do too when that happens.

Randy

I'll take some pics if they happen again, but I'm talking a gapping crack from top to bottom, seeds and juice visible and starting to get a white fuzz on the wound..

gssgarden · July 15, 2008

Like this 'Super Crack' on my Tom's Yellow Wonder? Weighed in at 1lb 4oz but lost alot to MAJOR cracking on top and bottom.

Greg

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**carolyn137** · July 15, 2008

Previously I had a different name but for about 5 or 6 years now I've used this bigdaddyj moniker. (long story why the name change)

******

I don't need to know the long story why the name change, but what was your user name before that.

Just curious.

If you don't want to put it here you can just send me a message here at TVille. I promise not to tell anyone.

So we've interacted before, I guess, with the other user name that I might recognize.

harleysilo · July 16, 2008

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Originally Posted by gssgarden

Like this 'Super Crack' on my Tom's Yellow Wonder? Weighed in at 1lb 4oz but lost alot to MAJOR cracking on top and bottom.

Greg

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jenn_sc · July 16, 2008

I'm actually getting pretty good fruitset on my Brandywine Sudduth plants this year (a first for me!) My seed source was Victory.

Now if they would just start turning red!

Jennifer

**carolyn137** · July 16, 2008

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Originally Posted by jenn_sc

I'm actually getting pretty good fruitset on my Brandywine Sudduth plants this year (a first for me!) My seed source was Victory.

Now if they would just start turning red!

Jennifer

Jennifer, I hope they don't turn red b'c Brandywine is pink, a dark pink.

Sometimes it's hard to say if a fruit is a dark pink or red but you can determine that by peeling off a bit of the epidermis which is the outermost layer of the fruit.

If it's yellow the fruit is red. If it's clear, the fruit is pink.

jenn_sc · July 17, 2008

Oops! I guess I should have said "blushing" instead of "turning red"

Right now I have around two dozen big fruits (on my 3 plants) that are just sitting there, staying green.

I've threatened them with the weed whacker, but they still won't start to turn

Today I tried reasoning with them..."It's mid-July, time to get a move on, guys!"...but still no signs of pink

Seriously, though, I've never had such good fruitset with Brandywine. I think it's sheer luck...lots of flowers were opening when we had some cooler days. Other varieties without such good timing have dropped flowers on hot days.

Jennifer

WildLife · July 17, 2008

From years of reading about BWS, the weather is a major factor in fruit set and quality.
Yeah, all the toms are picky.

Razorback04 · July 17, 2008

I have 3 Brandywine Sudduths and they probably average around 10-12 tomatoes per plant. We cut the first ripe one last night and it definitely lived up to it's billing. My wife said, "Next year, all we're growing are Brandywines and Earl's Fauxs.........and oh, Marianna's Peaces". Of course, she's wrong. There's no way I'll be able to stay under 10-15 varieties.

Razorback04 · July 18, 2008

Just a quick note to add that B. Sudduth tomato #2 wasn't nearly as flavorful as the first one. And it was off the same vine, so go figure.

July 15, 2008	#19
BigdaddyJ Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Zone7 Delaware Posts: 399	Carolyn, yes I am aware it was Craig who supplied Johnny's with Sudduth Seed, that's why I've been ordering Sudduth from Johnny's ever since. And yes I am aware that other vendors now sell true Sudduth. I am partial to Johnny's as they have earned my trust for over 15 years now. Before I could get Sudduth I got my Brandywine seeds from Burpee's. Hey, experience is the best teacher... I am also aware of the OTV newsletter and your long history with Craig. I have been GW many years now. Previously I had a different name but for about 5 or 6 years now I've used this bigdaddyj moniker. (long story why the name change) __________________ Farmer at Heart

July 15, 2008	#23
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Previously I had a different name but for about 5 or 6 years now I've used this bigdaddyj moniker. (long story why the name change) ****** I don't need to know the long story why the name change, but what was your user name before that. Just curious. If you don't want to put it here you can just send me a message here at TVille. I promise not to tell anyone. So we've interacted before, I guess, with the other user name that I might recognize. __________________ Carolyn

July 15, 2008	#16
harleysilo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Woodstock GA Posts: 418	this is a good quick read http://www.agrisupportonline.com/Art...n_tomatoes.htm

July 15, 2008	#17
Patapsco Mike Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 62	FWIW here on the west side of Baltimore, in Zone 7, my Brandywine Suddeth (obtained indirectly through Suze I believe) has set over 20 fruits already. I picked the first one two days ago, ate it last night, and it was amazingly good. I would describe it as almost 'creamy-' soft, but not mushy nor grainy/crunchy, sweet, just divine! I would say my BWS has just about as many fruits set as any of my 7 other (non cherry) heirlooms.

July 15, 2008	#20
WVTomatoMan Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: West Virginia - Zone 6 Posts: 594	harleysilo - During hot humid weather different types of molds can set in on cracked fruit around here. If that is what you are experiencing I don't blame you for discarding the fruit, I do too when that happens. Randy

July 15, 2008	#22
gssgarden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,827	Like this 'Super Crack' on my Tom's Yellow Wonder? Weighed in at 1lb 4oz but lost alot to MAJOR cracking on top and bottom. Greg 003 (3).jpg

July 16, 2008	#25
jenn_sc SPLATT™ Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 502	I'm actually getting pretty good fruitset on my Brandywine Sudduth plants this year (a first for me!) My seed source was Victory. Now if they would just start turning red! Jennifer

July 17, 2008	#27
jenn_sc SPLATT™ Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 502	Oops! I guess I should have said "blushing" instead of "turning red" Right now I have around two dozen big fruits (on my 3 plants) that are just sitting there, staying green. I've threatened them with the weed whacker, but they still won't start to turn Today I tried reasoning with them..."It's mid-July, time to get a move on, guys!"...but still no signs of pink Seriously, though, I've never had such good fruitset with Brandywine. I think it's sheer luck...lots of flowers were opening when we had some cooler days. Other varieties without such good timing have dropped flowers on hot days. Jennifer

July 17, 2008	#28
WildLife Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach, Calif Posts: 144	From years of reading about BWS, the weather is a major factor in fruit set and quality. Yeah, all the toms are picky.

July 17, 2008	#29
Razorback04 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 47	I have 3 Brandywine Sudduths and they probably average around 10-12 tomatoes per plant. We cut the first ripe one last night and it definitely lived up to it's billing. My wife said, "Next year, all we're growing are Brandywines and Earl's Fauxs.........and oh, Marianna's Peaces". Of course, she's wrong. There's no way I'll be able to stay under 10-15 varieties.

July 18, 2008	#30
Razorback04 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 47	Just a quick note to add that B. Sudduth tomato #2 wasn't nearly as flavorful as the first one. And it was off the same vine, so go figure.