I think I'm going no-till - Page 26

BigVanVader · July 3, 2017

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I just ate my first Ambrosia Orange, and I think it easily beats Sungold in flavor.

Well I'm sold. My wife & sis wont shut-up about Sungold so it will be fun to trick them & see if they can tell the difference.

Cole_Robbie · July 5, 2017

Zolotaya Pulya (Golden Bullet)

This is a great variety, good yield, good shelf life, yet still sweet and juicy. On the down side, it seems to be more mold-susceptible than my other plants.

AKmark · July 5, 2017

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Originally Posted by Cole_Robbie

Esterina is a good variety, high yield and good flavor. But it still tastes like a hybrid. Johnny's replaced White Cherry in their catalog with Esterina, but I ate my first White Cherry yesterday, and it is much better tasting than Esterina, not even close.

Ambrosia Red has great flavor for the second year in a row. I just ate my first Ambrosia Orange, and I think it easily beats Sungold in flavor. I think I have Ambrosia Gold out there somewhere, too.

Painted Pink is the best-tasting pink/red antho cherry that I have had. Bosque Blue Bumble Bee is back as my yellow antho cherry. It's like seeing an old friend again.

Very nice haul Cole. I just follow your threads to look for new good varieties now, since you grow many side by side. Thanks for doing the homework for me. LOL

tryno12 · July 5, 2017

AK mark, my thoughts exactly!

bower · July 5, 2017

I also love the reviews and pix you post of new varieties.

The Golden Bullet looks good to me! Gorgeous. My Jaune Flammee are doing great although we're late so nothing ripe yet... but setting up and not falling for any of the nonsense complaints.

Would like to hear your comparison of JF/GB.

Cole_Robbie · July 5, 2017

You are all quite welcome.

Bower, I just ate a few Juan Flammee today. I think it is the best orange saladette for fresh eating. Some people say it can be too juicy. Shelf life of the JF is very short though, like a lot of heirloom varieties. The Golden Bullet I'd rate as a very close second in flavor, just about as good, and it will sit on my counter for 3-4 times as long without going bad.

De Barao Orange is another small orange tomato I like. Like Golden Bullet, it also has a history of being a Russian commercial variety. Flavor is not quite as good as the other two, but still better than any hybrid I have had, and the De Barao is the shelf life champion. They refuse to go bad. They'll sit for a month and still look good enough to sell.

That pic of the sliced Golden Bullet reminds me of Sladkij Ponchik, a yellow slicer I like, also former Russian commercial variety. These are all firm tomatoes, which I used to think I didn't like, but they are firm because the fruit have thick walls. There is a lot of juice inside to compensate. So a tomato can be firm and juicy at the same time. I didn't know that until I ran across these Russian varieties.

bower · July 5, 2017

Thanks, Cole, those are interesting observations. Shelf life is absolutely a consideration, and one of the reasons I appreciated Zolotoe Serdtse which is also very firm. But you can also have a thin skinned and less firm tomato that has great staying power

.. however these firm Russians do have their place and they certainly are sweet and enjoyable. I haven't tried any of the ones you named, but we do have a common interest in finding that perfect early yellow determinate. And orange... I love the orange ones... gotta have every color.

Definitely looking forward to the JF!

Worth1 · July 6, 2017

Orange tomatoes are one of my favorites.

Worth

Cole_Robbie · July 7, 2017

This is Grot, another former Russian commercial variety that I like. It is firm like the others, but still has good tomato flavor.

Cole_Robbie · July 7, 2017

Today's haul. Peppers are starting to come in.

BigVanVader · July 7, 2017

Gorgeous Cole. What are the piriform I see? Pepper of some sort?

Cole_Robbie · July 7, 2017

Thanks. Those are the first stuffers I have picked, seeds from pmcgrady, Mushroom Basket, maybe. I have to look it up. I had 3 stuffer types.

Cole_Robbie · July 7, 2017

On another note, I sprayed Met52 for my whiteflies a few days ago, and I hardly saw any at all today. They had gotten bad by the time I sprayed, so it was very effective.

tryno12 · July 8, 2017

As usual, great looking bunch!

Cole_Robbie · July 9, 2017

The pleated stuffing tomato pictured earlier is actually Gezahnte:
http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Gezahnte

July 5, 2017	#382
bower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 6,794	Thanks, Cole, those are interesting observations. Shelf life is absolutely a consideration, and one of the reasons I appreciated Zolotoe Serdtse which is also very firm. But you can also have a thin skinned and less firm tomato that has great staying power.. however these firm Russians do have their place and they certainly are sweet and enjoyable. I haven't tried any of the ones you named, but we do have a common interest in finding that perfect early yellow determinate. And orange... I love the orange ones... gotta have every color. Definitely looking forward to the JF!

July 7, 2017	#387
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	Thanks. Those are the first stuffers I have picked, seeds from pmcgrady, Mushroom Basket, maybe. I have to look it up. I had 3 stuffer types. Last edited by Cole_Robbie; July 7, 2017 at 03:25 PM.

July 5, 2017	#379
tryno12 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Indianapolis Area 46112 Posts: 857	AK mark, my thoughts exactly!

July 5, 2017	#380
bower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 6,794	I also love the reviews and pix you post of new varieties. The Golden Bullet looks good to me! Gorgeous. My Jaune Flammee are doing great although we're late so nothing ripe yet... but setting up and not falling for any of the nonsense complaints. Would like to hear your comparison of JF/GB.

July 5, 2017	#381
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	You are all quite welcome. Bower, I just ate a few Juan Flammee today. I think it is the best orange saladette for fresh eating. Some people say it can be too juicy. Shelf life of the JF is very short though, like a lot of heirloom varieties. The Golden Bullet I'd rate as a very close second in flavor, just about as good, and it will sit on my counter for 3-4 times as long without going bad. De Barao Orange is another small orange tomato I like. Like Golden Bullet, it also has a history of being a Russian commercial variety. Flavor is not quite as good as the other two, but still better than any hybrid I have had, and the De Barao is the shelf life champion. They refuse to go bad. They'll sit for a month and still look good enough to sell. That pic of the sliced Golden Bullet reminds me of Sladkij Ponchik, a yellow slicer I like, also former Russian commercial variety. These are all firm tomatoes, which I used to think I didn't like, but they are firm because the fruit have thick walls. There is a lot of juice inside to compensate. So a tomato can be firm and juicy at the same time. I didn't know that until I ran across these Russian varieties.

July 6, 2017	#383
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Orange tomatoes are one of my favorites. Worth

July 7, 2017	#386
BigVanVader Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Greenville, South Carolina Posts: 3,099	Gorgeous Cole. What are the piriform I see? Pepper of some sort?

July 7, 2017	#388
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	On another note, I sprayed Met52 for my whiteflies a few days ago, and I hardly saw any at all today. They had gotten bad by the time I sprayed, so it was very effective.

July 8, 2017	#389
tryno12 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Indianapolis Area 46112 Posts: 857	As usual, great looking bunch!