AVOID Pepper Joe's AT ALL COSTS! - Page 26

SharonRossy · July 22, 2013

Oh, yeah you're not so bad yourself Carolyn! LOL! Your advice is always looked for and highly respected.

remy · July 22, 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by amideutch

I was checking out Tomato books the other day at Amazon and came across Carolyn's book which I have. Looks like they are available again. Anyway I was looking at the reviews and guess whose name pops up as a reviewer, Pepper Jerk. Somebody needs to do a tap dance on his head.

http://www.amazon.com/Smith-Hawken-H...R2M9C8HSA65H1I

I just went and looked over there. Besides the main review, he also posted this one to the 2 star review.

Quote:

"Bookgirl Di.

I couldn't agree more.
This book is a disgrace and is so OLD and OUTDATED it should be retired with a little dignity and class. I don't blame you for returning the book. Everyone should return it for a refund and not be ripped off. SO SAD....even sports figures know when it's time to hang up the jersey. Poor Dr. Carolyn Male just needs to stop living in the past. Even when this poor, tired book first appeared it's pictures were so horrid and did not represent our Tomato Industry very well. PLEASE Doctor Male...take it off of the market....have some dignity... I recommend books by Gary Isben and other reputable growers.
This tired book is so sad...as sad as the Tomatoville website where Carolyn Male now trolls.... "

I normally keep quiet, but it is shameful of him to have written such a review

. Writing like that is of the behavior of a teenage boy, not a grown man.
Remy

RebelRidin · July 22, 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by remy

...
I normally keep quiet, but it is shameful of him to have written such a review

. Writing like that is of the behavior of a teenage boy, not a grown man.
Remy

There are a few words that aptly describe people like that. Polite people don't use those words and few people like the taste such words would leave in your mouth. Spitters come in many forms. This one has revealed the basest traits of his humanity for all the world to see.

I have contacted Amazon and reported his abuse of their review system. Amazon doesn't take kindly to that kind of thing and someone was certainly laying down on the job to let those through. Hopefully they will be removed and he will find himself banned there as well, both from reviews and from their marketplace.

The best thing that can happen to snake oil salesman and people who like to stick their fingers in other peoples eyes is to take away the forums they use to do it.

Worth1 · July 22, 2013

Looks like its time for me to do a little amazon book review.
I have read Carolyns book many times.
I have stayed out of this discussion mainly because I don't need any negativity in my life at this time.
But like many things you can't sit on the sidelines forever.
At some point a man has to take a stand.
That time has arrived for me.
I can't do any good talking about it here amongst friends I feel I must walk into this herd of worm infested swine and do battle with the pen.

A direct insult to my friend Carolyn is a slap in the face to me.
I don't take kindly to the words I read in the review not one bit.

Carolyn hold your head high you are at the top of your class.
A place only these swine could only dream of being and a place they shall never be nor a position they shall never achieve.

For every bad thing they can say about the book I can say a thousand good things.

If any of you nasty pigs are reading this may the sands of the deserts infest your ars's.
May your wells run dry.
And may your camels run off with the Mongol hoards.

Only to leave you sitting in the dunes with only your hate and contemptuous words to chew on.

Worth

Heritage · July 23, 2013

There is a 'report abuse' button next to each review at Amazon.

Also, if you have a copy of Carolyn's book, write a book review of your own.

Thanks for the heads up, Ami.

Steve

Calcat36 · July 23, 2013

Worth,

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

FILMNET · July 23, 2013

Now if anyone looks at Penny or the pepper website, you can see the really old website. It is a free one from maybe 2000 design?

**carolyn137** · July 23, 2013

http://tomatoville.com/showthread.ph...y%27s+tomatoes

Above is the original link where Penny's Tomatoes was first posted here in 2011 and in the first post is what her website looked like in 2011 and what the input from Tville members was.

At this point I think everything that's been said, has been said. But newer members might appreciate more in terms of honesty and truth in selling seeds, interacting with others, etc.

The new links posted with book reviews reinforced what those of us who have been here a long time already knew as I see it. And newer members have had a chance to also see what some here have been through

So perhaps it's time to just let this long thread take a break, if you will.

Just my own opinion and no doubt there will be others who will disagree with my opinion.

Carolyn

**carolyn137** · July 23, 2013

Correction to my above post.

I realized that the website shown with the link was not the original one which was all cartoonish with a cartoon woman sporting two large red tomatoes for breasts, and sexually slanted comments made at several places at the site and same for some featured pictures, of peppers as I recall.

So the comments in the thread referred to the original cartoon version but are just as valid as to the nature of her site and the problems that many here at the time found with it.

Carolyn

Doug9345 · July 23, 2013

Penny's Tomatoes from 2008
http://web.archive.org/web/200806132...stomatoes.com/

**carolyn137** · July 23, 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug9345

Penny's Tomatoes from 2008
http://web.archive.org/web/200806132...stomatoes.com/

Says 2009 on it and it's close, but not the same one that was first pictured here.

If you compare the varieties being talked about in the thread, many of them are not in this earlier version.

The version we saw had actual photos of many varieties and that's why in the thead you'll see folks saying that this photo or that one was taken from here or there, without permission.

Carolyn

SharonRossy · July 23, 2013

Seriously, I'm not too sure very much makes Penny blush! Ok, really, that site is just plain bad taste. I could not take a site like that seriously and would never order from them just on principle, And they have the nerve to write their ugly comments on Amazon?!!! incredible!

Crandrew · July 23, 2013

i reported the posts to amazon as personal attacks against the author with ulterior motive. It might not do anything but if enough people report the posts it will make a difference. Amazon customer service is great.

FILMNET · July 23, 2013

I did also yesterday he wrote a Terrible nasty message . It would be nice if anyone would post this on other websites

Mojave · July 23, 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crandrew

i reported the posts to amazon as personal attacks against the author with ulterior motive.

Me too.

July 23, 2013	#383
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	http://tomatoville.com/showthread.ph...y%27s+tomatoes Above is the original link where Penny's Tomatoes was first posted here in 2011 and in the first post is what her website looked like in 2011 and what the input from Tville members was. At this point I think everything that's been said, has been said. But newer members might appreciate more in terms of honesty and truth in selling seeds, interacting with others, etc. The new links posted with book reviews reinforced what those of us who have been here a long time already knew as I see it. And newer members have had a chance to also see what some here have been through So perhaps it's time to just let this long thread take a break, if you will. Just my own opinion and no doubt there will be others who will disagree with my opinion. Carolyn __________________ Carolyn

July 23, 2013	#384
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Correction to my above post. I realized that the website shown with the link was not the original one which was all cartoonish with a cartoon woman sporting two large red tomatoes for breasts, and sexually slanted comments made at several places at the site and same for some featured pictures, of peppers as I recall. So the comments in the thread referred to the original cartoon version but are just as valid as to the nature of her site and the problems that many here at the time found with it. Carolyn __________________ Carolyn

July 22, 2013	#376
SharonRossy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,140	Oh, yeah you're not so bad yourself Carolyn! LOL! Your advice is always looked for and highly respected.

July 22, 2013	#379
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Looks like its time for me to do a little amazon book review. I have read Carolyns book many times. I have stayed out of this discussion mainly because I don't need any negativity in my life at this time. But like many things you can't sit on the sidelines forever. At some point a man has to take a stand. That time has arrived for me. I can't do any good talking about it here amongst friends I feel I must walk into this herd of worm infested swine and do battle with the pen. A direct insult to my friend Carolyn is a slap in the face to me. I don't take kindly to the words I read in the review not one bit. Carolyn hold your head high you are at the top of your class. A place only these swine could only dream of being and a place they shall never be nor a position they shall never achieve. For every bad thing they can say about the book I can say a thousand good things. If any of you nasty pigs are reading this may the sands of the deserts infest your ars's. May your wells run dry. And may your camels run off with the Mongol hoards. Only to leave you sitting in the dunes with only your hate and contemptuous words to chew on. Worth

July 23, 2013	#380
Heritage Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,255	There is a 'report abuse' button next to each review at Amazon. Also, if you have a copy of Carolyn's book, write a book review of your own. Thanks for the heads up, Ami. Steve

July 23, 2013	#381
Calcat36 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: 6b Posts: 56	Worth, *"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)*

July 23, 2013	#382
FILMNET Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Charleston,South Carolina, USA Posts: 1,803	Now if anyone looks at Penny or the pepper website, you can see the really old website. It is a free one from maybe 2000 design?

July 23, 2013	#385
Doug9345 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Durhamville,NY Posts: 2,706	Penny's Tomatoes from 2008 http://web.archive.org/web/200806132...stomatoes.com/

July 23, 2013	#387
SharonRossy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,140	Seriously, I'm not too sure very much makes Penny blush! Ok, really, that site is just plain bad taste. I could not take a site like that seriously and would never order from them just on principle, And they have the nerve to write their ugly comments on Amazon?!!! incredible!

July 23, 2013	#388
Crandrew Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: asdf Posts: 1,202	i reported the posts to amazon as personal attacks against the author with ulterior motive. It might not do anything but if enough people report the posts it will make a difference. Amazon customer service is great.

July 23, 2013	#389
FILMNET Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North Charleston,South Carolina, USA Posts: 1,803	I did also yesterday he wrote a Terrible nasty message . It would be nice if anyone would post this on other websites