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February 13, 2011 | #31 |
Tomatovillian™
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I found this website very helpful with regard to remineralization:
http://soilminerals.com/ I actually bought the e-book last fall and, while a bit spendy, it contained a lot of useful information and formulas for interpreting soil test results and calculating the correct proportions of minerals. In any event, I think it's most useful to look at the full range of minerals required for plant growth and the only way to do this is through a soil test. I use Logan Labs (www.loganlabs.com) because they follow the philosophies of Dr. William Albrecht and a base saturation soil testing methodology. Applying something like Azomite isn't going to hurt, but it's the correct balance that's really critical. One of the key pieces of information that I learned is that when you achieve the correct balance of minerals you don't have to worry about soil PH - it will naturally fall into the "ideal" range for most vegetables. That was a real revelation because 99% of everything you read limits discussion of mineralization to apply lime to raise PH and sulfur to lower PH. When you really drill-down, that's a vast oversimplification. |
February 13, 2011 | #32 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Aug 2010
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For anybody looking to research sustainable farming methods, the link below will lead you to nearly 100 old publications (free downloads) dealing with soils, fertilizers, crops, etc. Many prominent authors who pioneered organic growing are represented amongst the titles.
Agriculture Library Index |
February 13, 2011 | #33 |
Tomatovillian™
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Rintintin,
Many thanks!
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February 13, 2011 | #34 |
Tomatovillian™
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Yes - great link!
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February 14, 2011 | #35 |
Tomatovillian™
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Much of that stuff could otherwise be found only in a research library.
There's enough reading there to keep us busy a couple of winters. |
December 3, 2011 | #36 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Holbrook, Az zone 5
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For the last few years I have been adding rock dust and compost. Compost alone before that. My garden does much better than it ever has. I started with a product out of Utah called Azomite works very well a bit pricey for bigger gardens. So I started to get fine millings from a local quarry an old volcano they grind it up I get it screened to where it looks like sand. Besides my garden doing incredible since adding rock dust I find that the vegetables taste better...lol I also get granite dust from another quarry heck it can cost as little as 10 to 20 dollars a ton if you have a truck and haul it off your self.
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December 3, 2011 | #37 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2011
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dustyriver, where in AZ do you get this wonderful stuff? I ordered rock dust on-line a few months ago, 50#'s, and I agree - the plants in my garden are VERY happy.
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December 3, 2011 | #38 |
Tomatovillian™
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dust, the better taste that you describe is your tongue receptors that now are tasting the trace minerals. Your food is better nutritionally for you now. Also you should be also having sweeter tasting fruits am I correct?
I am going to look at rock distributors around MA to get some of the dust too. If anybody knows let me know I will let you guys too know when/where I find it. I located a aquaponics store in Northboro, MA that sells Azomite which I'll go to check out this spring as well.
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December 3, 2011 | #39 |
Tomatovillian™
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I get it myself in my pick up truck most cement companys have rockdust fine millings where you can get it in bulk. My nursery that I use is in Star Valley by Payson Az they carry Azomite extremely good product I think 24 bucks a bag but I can get a truck load from a quarry for 20 bucks or less I do use both I live in northern Arizona there are lots of cinder pits is Showlow Flagstaff all will sell you there fine milllings.
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December 3, 2011 | #40 |
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The same here, at a local nursery they sell tiny bags of decomposed granite for cacti at $10 a bag.
I can get a cubic yard for around $30. Worth |
December 3, 2011 | #41 |
Tomatovillian™
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Lol Oh yea I can get fine milled granite in the Payson area for 20 bucks a ton to. The nursery I use in Star Valley is Plant fair nursery I believe they have a site. www.plantfairnursery.com
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“The yield of a crop is LIMITED by the deficiency of any one element even though all of the other necessary elements are present in adequate amounts”. J. Von Liebig's law of the minimum. |
December 3, 2011 | #42 |
Tomatovillian™
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Thanks to both. I'll check around Phoenix for a suitable cement company. Driving The Old Farm truck to Payson would defeat the purpose of saving money on smaller purchases. It's a '78 Ford half-ton.
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December 3, 2011 | #43 |
Tomatovillian™
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Tell the guy you want the fine millings
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“The yield of a crop is LIMITED by the deficiency of any one element even though all of the other necessary elements are present in adequate amounts”. J. Von Liebig's law of the minimum. |
December 3, 2011 | #44 |
Tomatovillian™
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okay, thanks....
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December 3, 2011 | #45 |
Tomatovillian™
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I just read this post as Roast Duck, wow..I need to do some waking up.
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