A garden is only as good as the ground that it's planted in. Discussion forum for the many ways to improve the soil where we plant our gardens.
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December 13, 2015 | #33 |
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On the subject of Soil Test: Rather than atarting a new thread , I revived this one, in orther to get some opinions and discussion over soil chemistry. I have just done some soil analysis/test and result are back : synopsis on one of the samples: MEASURED / OPTIMUM.... comment Organic Matter ... 16.4 / 10 ? .... High pH .... 6.4 / 6.8 ........ Near Perfect Nitrogen (NO3-N ).... 1 / 70-200 ..... Very very low: Rain washed... P (Weak Bray ?) ....69 / 30 ..... High ( This is often the case ) K (potassium) ... 206 / 150 .... slightly high ( This is often the case ) Mg (Magnesium) .. 195 / 150 ... Good @ CEC of 14 Ca (Calcium) .... 2112 / 200-250 .... High (no more Tums & eggshells . hehe) Na (sodium) ..... 22 / 80 ..... Low (Now I can use rock salt to kill the slugs) S (sulfur SO4 - S) ...... ... 5 / 70-200 ....Very Low.... Recommended gypsum. But it can increase Ca ??? Perhaps I should look into sulfates.Have to figure out. TRACE ELEMENTS : They are either low or not measured for example Fe and Mn missing. Need to add Azomite. Need advice: My pH is just right. I don't want to alter it. My Calcium is already high . I don't want to get it highe My S and Fe (sulfur and Iron) are low Just One of the sample reports: Any suggestions, comments appreciated. ....Gardeneer |
December 13, 2015 | #34 |
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I think you are good to go as long as you have worms and mycorrhizal fungi. Plenty of SOM to have locked up even maybe too much nitrogen, but as the SOM gets digested by the soil biota, it will become available for the plants in a process called mineralization. The key here for you is to give the soil microbes and worms a chance to catch up. Something like this might help: Mycogrow
ps. The Haney test gives you a better idea of exactly how much nitrogen will be released due to biological activity. I am just making an educated guess since the type of soil test you got was designed for standard NPK fertilizers, not organic biological based fertility.
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December 13, 2015 | #35 |
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Thanks Redbaron,
I know for most parts, I am fine. Is ther a product in BBS for adding mycorrhizal fungi ? I don't do mail and internet shopping. But I think there are worms in my garden and a lot of mushrooms pop up in the spring time. I would also want to get some azomite. Gardeneer |
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Probably only need to use it at transplant time.
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December 14, 2015 | #39 |
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Just hit the beds with Miracle Squirt and be done with it.
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December 14, 2015 | #40 |
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You got good soil, just add a little ammonia nitrate and magnesium sulfate.
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Now it is true that his soil is good enough that it will be many years before that type of treatment will degrade the soil, why start in the wrong direction? Apparent he has worked very hard to improve this soil.
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From the USDA: Quote:
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December 15, 2015 | #44 |
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So those of us who choose to use non organic methods to improve our soil or a combination of organics and non organics are not allowed to post in this forum? Is that what you're saying?
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