Help with selecting what to sell

[barbamWY]

Here is this year's list:
Determinates
Glacier
Siletz
Early Wonder Pink
Early Siberian
Sheyenne
Mountain Fresh
Sweet Tangerine (Burpee)
Cosmonaut Volkov
Legend
Saucing/Paste/Oxheart
Coure Di Bue
Mama Leone
Siberian Pink Honey
Amish Paste
Small Fruited
Sweetie
Black Cherry
Sunsugar
Gardener's Delight
Bloody Butcher
Colored
Black Giant
Lemon Boy
Pink Berkeley Tie Dye
Beefsteak
Delicious
Chapman
Neves Azorean
Crnkovic Yugoslavian
Slicing/Globe
North Dakota Earliana
Goliath
Jet Star
Chalk's Early Jewel
Russian Rose
I can add Early Annie, Defiant, or Burbank. What do your guys think of the list this year?

Originally Posted by barbamWY

Here is this year's list:
Determinates
Glacier
Siletz
Early Wonder Pink
Early Siberian
Sheyenne
Mountain Fresh
Sweet Tangerine (Burpee)
Cosmonaut Volkov
Legend
Saucing/Paste/Oxheart
Coure Di Bue
Mama Leone
Siberian Pink Honey
Amish Paste
[U]Small Fruited[U[
Sweetie
Black Cherry
Sunsugar
Gardener's Delight
Bloody Butcher
Colored
Black Giant
Lemon Boy
Pink Berkeley Tie Dye
Beefsteak
Delicious
Chapman
Neves Azorean
Crnkovic Yugoslavian
Slicing/Globe
North Dakota Earliana
Goliath
Jet Star
Chalk's Early Jewel
Russian Rose
I can add Early Annie, Defiant, or Burbank. What do your guys think of the list this year?

I'm excited to see that you're growing Sheyenne, North Dakota Earliana, and Jet Star (F1?). I haven't grown those, yet, but I've heard great things about them (I'm not sure about for market, yet). North Dakota Earliana is on my 2017 list, too. In your area, I imagine early ones are probably best for market. I know in my area, people seem to want slicers and salad tomatoes most in June and July, and they mostly want the later ones for canning, sauce or salsa (which is not what most people online like the late ones for).

Chapman seems like a good tomato for market. It's not early, though, but it's awesome. It's firm, perfect-looking, large (2lbs), and decently productive for the size.

Lemon Boy F1 should work fine for market, if you don't get many cracked tomatoes (I got cracks on at least a few). It's not as productive as I'd like. I prefer Early Girl F1, but Lemon Boy is bigger. They're both heat-tolerant.

Black Giant is a decent tomato. It may be a little soft for market, though.

I'll be interested in your growout results for your list after the season. I'm very curious about how some of those do (e.g Neves Azorean Red and Chalk's Early Jewel).

[barbamWY]

The list is for plants we sell at our sale. I have grown Neves Azorean for years and I love it. It is a heavy producer of big tomatoes and not one of the latest I grow. Chalk's Early Jewel I have only grown for about 3 years and it grows well. Chapman is a new one. Lemon Boy is a problem growing as a seedling. I keep telling our grower to start later. It gets leggy. I prefer Black Early over Black Giant, but it's hard to find seed.
Barb

Originally Posted by barbamWY

The list is for plants we sell at our sale. I have grown Neves Azorean for years and I love it. It is a heavy producer of big tomatoes and not one of the latest I grow. Chalk's Early Jewel I have only grown for about 3 years and it grows well. Chapman is a new one. Lemon Boy is a problem growing as a seedling. I keep telling our grower to start later. It gets leggy. I prefer Black Early over Black Giant, but it's hard to find seed.
Barb

Oh, that's cool. Plants are awesome. I'm glad to hear that about Neves Azorean Red. I hadn't heard of Black Early before. It sounds pretty nice, though. I'm trying Black Bear, this year. I wonder how it compares to Black Giant and Black Early, except Black Bear is determinate.

[rhines81]

Originally Posted by barbamWY

Here is this year's list:
Determinates
Glacier
Siletz
Early Wonder Pink
Early Siberian
Sheyenne
Mountain Fresh
Sweet Tangerine (Burpee)
Cosmonaut Volkov
Legend

I always thought Cosmonaut Volkov was an indeterminate ??

[barbamWY]

rhines81, Territorial says Cosmonaut Volkov is determinate. Fedco says Indeterminate. High Mowing Seeds says Semi-determinate. I have grown it for years, but never paid a lot of attention, but I don't recall it getting very tall.
Barb

[Cole_Robbie]

I never noticed, either. CV yields like an indet, at least I get fruit all summer. Bradley is determinate, and behaves similarly. Maybe that's what 'semi-det' means, an extended harvest determinate.

[Fred Hempel]

The Cosmonaut Volkov I am familiar with is indeterminate. But Territorial could have a determinate strain of it.

[barbamWY]

Originally Posted by Fred Hempel

The Cosmonaut Volkov I am familiar with is indeterminate. But Territorial could have a determinate strain of it.

I think it is shorter than most of my indeterminate heirlooms but I do believe it produces most of the summer so I think I will list it as semi-determinate.
I think we could start a whole new conversation, as I just read an article calling Glacier a Semi-Indeterminate.
Barb

[barbamWY]

I am thinking of adding Atkinson and Dwarf Sweet Sue. What do you think?
Barb

[barbamWY]

Hello All,
I thought I would update you on this years plant list. Many are the same reliable ones we have grown here in Northern Wyoming.
Kimberley
Bloody Butcher
Glacier
Early Wonder (pink)
North Dakota Earliana
Siletz
Sheyenne
Cosmonaut Volkov
Legend
Berkeley Tie Dye Pink
Goliath
Black Giant
Lemon Boy
Chalk's Early Jewel
Green Zebra
Mountain Majesty
Chef's Choice Orange
Marglobe
Mountain Fresh
Giant Belgium
Russian Rose
Chapman
Amish Paste
Heidi
Kosovo (Replaces Siberian Pink Honey because seed is hard to find this year)
Juliet
Sweetie
Sunshine Bumble Bee
Sun Sugar
Fargo Yellow Pear
Dwarf Arctic Rose
Dwarf Velvet Knight

How does it look? Our selection is based on what has sold in the past and what our 4 growers want to grow. No one would pick Black Cherry or Chocolate Cherry that I suggested so I thought I would try some Dwarf Velvet Night. I have grown Dwarf Arctic Rose before.
Anything we should add?
Barb

[ContainerTed]

If you're looking for more suggestions, I would mention Kodiak Brown and Merced OP. Both are mid/early and really put of the load. I can also recommend Rutgers Select which is larger and more productive than the original Rutgers. For the adventuresome customers, I would definitely suggest Grandma Olivers Chocolate - highly productive and very large, and the taste is off the scale. You might also look at Bison for early, and for a hybrid, Pink Girl is my newest selection for dehybridization growouts. For the saladette size, the one I sell a lot of is "Campari". Huge crops of good tasting three inch balls of good taste.

All of the ones I mentioned above are either early or early/mid season. All are very productive and all are good tasting. Good luck on your marketing adventures.

[FarmerShawn]

For flavor, I'd recommend Wes, a red heart. KBX is a reliable and tasty orange beefsteak. Amazon Chocolate and Indian Stripe do well as blacks.

[SueCT]

Azoychka. Medium sized fruit, compact plant, early and yellow, so it adds some color and variety. Plus, it tastes good.

[barbamWY]

Originally Posted by ContainerTed

If you're looking for more suggestions, I would mention Kodiak Brown and Merced OP. Both are mid/early and really put of the load. I can also recommend Rutgers Select which is larger and more productive than the original Rutgers. For the adventuresome customers, I would definitely suggest Grandma Olivers Chocolate - highly productive and very large, and the taste is off the scale. You might also look at Bison for early, and for a hybrid, Pink Girl is my newest selection for dehybridization growouts. For the saladette size, the one I sell a lot of is "Campari". Huge crops of good tasting three inch balls of good taste.

All of the ones I mentioned above are either early or early/mid season. All are very productive and all are good tasting. Good luck on your marketing adventures.

Ted,
I think Merced might be a good one for us. One of our growers of plants also owns the local CSA and I will ask him if he has grown Rutgers Select or the regular Rutgers. I grew Bison many years ago but do not recall how it did. I will look up Campari to see if it is an option.
Shawn, I have grown Wes. It is a good meaty tomato. I do like Indian Stripe. Indian Stripe gives high yields for me. It is odd last year that Kellogs Breakfast did not sell well last year. So I am afraid to try to sell KBX, but will grow it for myself. I have not tried Amazon chocolate and I do love the dark tomatoes.
Sue, Craig has mentioned Azoychka and I tried it, but had to pull it up due to disease. I will give it another shot.
Thank you all for your input. I go back and look at this thread every year. I appreciate all of the suggestions.
Barb