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Old July 21, 2010   #31
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It's spreading! I just went to the farm to pic some Earl's Faux's and look what happened. A floating Earl!

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Old July 21, 2010   #32
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Here's a picture of "blueberry" I stored on my computer, unfortunately I don't recall where it came from

Ah, found it

http://www.myspace.com/dwlcrl/photos/11011422
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Old July 21, 2010   #33
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These landed for just a second - just long enough for a quick snapshot. Let me tell you - it's a strange year!

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Old July 21, 2010   #34
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Carolyn, I can add to this just a bit by saying that I had seed of the pseudo-variety Blueberry at least a year before news of the GMO from Europe surfaced. i also had seed direct from OSU that I grew out in 2007 and have photos to prove it. The leak of seed came from Byndeweedbeth who posted on another forum that she had seed available and sent them to quite a few people.

Now I'm starting to wonder if maybe we shouldn't all pull our feet up cause this thread is definitely getting deep. Not saying what it is or how deep, but it just might be good tomato fertilizer.

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Old July 21, 2010   #35
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Carolyn, I can add to this just a bit by saying that I had seed of the pseudo-variety Blueberry at least a year before news of the GMO from Europe surfaced. i also had seed direct from OSU that I grew out in 2007 and have photos to prove it. The leak of seed came from Byndeweedbeth who posted on another forum that she had seed available and sent them to quite a few people.

Now I'm starting to wonder if maybe we shouldn't all pull our feet up cause this thread is definitely getting deep. Not saying what it is or how deep, but it just might be good tomato fertilizer.

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Yes, I'm sure you did have seed for something called BLueberry before the news of the GMO one form England came out. I'm pretty sure that the name Blueberry was just casually attached to the OSU BLue early on.

And while I didn't know her name as she used it at DG, I've related her story that no one told her she couldn't distribute the OSU seeds, and she worked in the lab there at OSU. I'm sure she never asked so of course no one told her she couldn't. I had nicely challenged her about it but she was determined to distribute those seeds.

And yes, I post at DG from time to time and yes, she did distribute OSU seeds to many many folks.

Tomato fertilizer? Oh I dunno, I've found it interesting at times especially with the added threads of yore that so many new folks here of course knew nothing about.
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I have two tomatoes called blues .One is the OSU from Oregon and one from the UK called Blueberry , the plants are different,I believe one is determinate and 1 indeterminate, fruits are both are deep deep blue, slightly different shapes, but still early days. They are definately different tomatoes though.XX Jeannine
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Thank you Jeannine. Can you supply us with picures of each? Preferably floating so we can make an accurate comparison. We've had several reported sightings lately and are trying hard to get to the bottom of this. It appears I've had an accidental cross between a Blueberry Tomato and an Earl's Faux, producing a Floating BlueFaux.



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I have two tomatoes called blues .One is the OSU from Oregon and one from the UK called Blueberry , the plants are different,I believe one is determinate and 1 indeterminate, fruits are both are deep deep blue, slightly different shapes, but still early days. They are definately different tomatoes though.XX Jeannine
I would be especially interested in how you got the UK one called Blueberry b'c my understanding and that of others is that no seeds for that variety have been made available and that they're still working on it.
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These landed for just a second - just long enough for a quick snapshot. Let me tell you - it's a strange year!

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You should know, never trade seeds with someome from Roswell.
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Thank you Jeannine. Can you supply us with picures of each? Preferably floating so we can make an accurate comparison. We've had several reported sightings lately and are trying hard to get to the bottom of this. It appears I've had an accidental cross between a Blueberry Tomato and an Earl's Faux, producing a Floating BlueFaux.



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There is no such thing as a blueberry tomato.
Yes there is.
No there's not.
Yes there is.
No there's not.


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I feel I have woken up in a blue fog nightmare, and no I am not sending pictures of floating toms..LOL

Seriously, I truly don't know what I have. I got them both from the same person . I was told one was OSU from Oregon and the other which was described as a blue tomato from a European Uni breeding and called Blueberry .Further that those seeds were from obtained from the UK and shared with me, that is all I know. I only got a very few seeds and due to lack of space this year have cut down to just 1 plant of each, they both have very small fruit,I haven't looked closely enough to see if any have nipples LOL. The plants are different in that one is very bushy the other is growing taller(OSU) .The blue is very deep and bits of the fruit that is covered by foliage is green so still very unripe. I chose not to prune, I was told that the OSU was indeterminate but the Blueberry was not known.

I had heard that there was one in The UK that was GMO but when I investigated this I read it as a no.. maybe I mis read, or read something different..I simply don't know. Actully I would like to know more as I am not interested in a GMO one .

I was under the impression that the OSU has surface blue and the UK Blueberry that was thought to be GMO was blue all through. So till they mature and I can cut them open I woud have no way of knowing what I had.

I would seem to me that there is a lot of misinformation out there, probably many crosses and more that one or two names, so who really knows what is what.

So as far as I know, I have a US bred called OSU and a UK bred European blue called Blueberry.

Goodness onky knows what that actually means.. I am really confused now.

I enjoyed reading the link about the WOW tom in the snow The style of writing reminded me very much about a poster on another forum that is known to have many aliases and is regularly kicked off. He also grows hundreds of kilos of potatoes from 1 tuber by planting them 4 feet deep..and regularly talked about his WOW toms in cages under the snow in February.

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I feel I have woken up in a blue fog nightmare, and no I am not sending pictures of floating toms..LOL

Seriously, I truly don't know what I have. I got them both from the same person . I was told one was OSU from Oregon and the other which was described as a blue tomato from a European Uni breeding and called Blueberry .Further that those seeds were from obtained from the UK and shared with me, that is all I know. I only got a very few seeds and due to lack of space this year have cut down to just 1 plant of each, they both have very small fruit,I haven't looked closely enough to see if any have nipples LOL. The plants are different in that one is very bushy the other is growing taller(OSU) .The blue is very deep and bits of the fruit that is covered by foliage is green so still very unripe. I chose not to prune, I was told that the OSU was indeterminate but the Blueberry was not known.

I had heard that there was one in The UK that was GMO but when I investigated this I read it as a no.. maybe I mis read, or read something different..I simply don't know. Actully I would like to know more as I am not interested in a GMO one .

I was under the impression that the OSU has surface blue and the UK Blueberry that was thought to be GMO was blue all through. So till they mature and I can cut them open I woud have no way of knowing what I had.

I would seem to me that there is a lot of misinformation out there, probably many crosses and more that one or two names, so who really knows what is what.

So as far as I know, I have a US bred called OSU and a UK bred European blue called Blueberry.

Goodness onky knows what that actually means.. I am really confused now.

I enjoyed reading the link about the WOW tom in the snow The style of writing reminded me very much about a poster on another forum that is known to have many aliases and is regularly kicked off. He also grows hundreds of kilos of potatoes from 1 tuber by planting them 4 feet deep..and regularly talked about his WOW toms in cages under the snow in February.

XX Jeannine
These links should help you accept the fact that the UK one is a GMO but I erred is saying it was a blueberry gene that was inserted when it was actually two genes from a snapdragon.

The first link is to a thread already here where this was discussed in detail, scientific links were given and the reason that apparently no seeds have yet been distributed:

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=11677

And two others:

http://www.foodnavigator.com/On-your...r-GM-says-USDA

http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/...cer-prone-rats

And don't forget the link that's in the Tville thread, near the end which talks about permits and seed accessability.

The reason that all the groups that are working on this project of high anthocyanin tomatoes is interesting and the reason that they're STILL working on it is to get some selections that actually taste decent and that's also talked about in the Tville thread.
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Well, FWIW, (For What Its Worth), here is what my variety looks like. They are NOT GM englisher variety, near as I know.
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