Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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December 4, 2010 | #31 |
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Tastiheart has been stable for 4 years now Carolyn. I'm sure Heshpole has been stable for about the same length of time.
The reason I mentioned Wanda's Potato Top is because I got a large pink potato leaf heart from it a couple of years ago. I don't recall who traded the seed to me. DarJones |
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Darrel, I never heard of Tastiheart until yesterday. Maybe I don't read and post at the right message sites and the right time or missed it or whatever, I don't know. And I can't be the only one who didn't know about it/ But if it's been stable for four years now and you think it's a great variety and you'd like to see it have a wider distribution you know that you can send it to perhaps Glenn or others for trial and/or list it in the SSE Yearbook or even make a seed offer for it here at Tville. And if you've been selling it as a plant and folks are saving seed from it perhaps they're making it available to others, I just don't know. The seed offers I make at Tville comprise most, but not all of the varieties I SSE list ( it's a seed number issue) and I like to offer them for an SASE here b'c I get much more feedback here, and I ask for it, than I ever would get thru SSE requests. it wasn't that way in the 90's b'c folks who requested varieties from a person almost always relisted them, but that was then and this is now and the relist rate has plunged.
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December 4, 2010 | #33 |
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I believe Heshpole is stable; locally shared seeds and my own growing over the last couple of years showed no variability beyond what could be explained by individuals in a population and variables in conditions. I sent seeds to SSE last year, confident that selection was done (knowing they'd request it as a unique variety). A few folks have asked for seeds already since this afternoon and I should have no problem honoring the first 20 or so requests, so long as folks are happy with a dozen or so seeds.
I am not personally familiar with Fusion's Tastiheart and a couple of siblings he offers, only know it from a few conversations on the web and his descriptions on his seeds/plants site. Because of the source, obviously Heshpole and Darryl's selections will be similar, and there is a distinct probability his would be superior in the southeast. Tomatophiles nearer to Darryl should inquire with him about plants this spring. I'm not interested in stepping on his toes. I have grown Wanda's Potatoe Leaf every few years for a long time; I've had it so long that records of provenance havent survived household moves, and we've been here on the farm for over 20 years! I believe I recieved it in trade from a gardener in New York after responding to an ad in either Harrowsmith magazine or Country Journal (remember them?). I wonder if it and W.'s Pot. Top are the same? WPL is a rampant pink indet, delivers loads of large pink 'steaks, but is fairly late here. Unlike many pinks, it does keep fairly well, so just a few plants can feed a home-grown salsa operation. Flavor is Good, but unremarkable in comparison to dozens of others ready about the same time.
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December 9, 2010 | #34 |
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Craig's Potato Leaf is what Bill Malin called it, and it was in fact found by Craig Lehoullier, but may not always be a heart. Quote from TTG: "I have a red PL heart variety that I found in the Craigs Potato Leaf that I was growing out"
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Had I known yoou were referring to something that happened in the early 90's I sure wouldn't have suggested it was Little Lucky Heart, which is a very recent development. Since you never said what color it was I just assumed that you were referring to Little Lucky Heart which is a bicolor though, not a red. Gunnar posted: Spudayellow Strawberry (related to German Red Strawberry and surprisingly enough not to Orange Strawberry) and Craig's Potato Leaf are PL hearts, and Grightmire's Pride which I haven't grown myself is supposed to "behave" almost as a non-heart. And maybe Tormato/Gary found something interesting. ****** And I read with interest about how what Bill called Craig's Potato leaf came to be and I agree when he said that Bisignano #1 sometimes has heart shaped fruits. So does Prue and there's another one I can't remember now. So maybe some day we'll get a red heart if Prue crosses with a PL. You never know. Being kind of mom to German Red Strawberry perhaps I can grow Spudayellow Strawberry sometime.
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December 10, 2010 | #36 |
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There is also 'Zore's Big Red', a PL red heart that I obtained from Neil Lockhart this year. It grew true to the description, but I wasn't able to get a good tasting this year because of poor weather. He has it listed as originally from Will Bonsall.
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