Carolyn's Fall 2011 Feedback Data For Seeds Sent

[frozengirl]

For heavens sake dont chunk any seed! Of course it probably was me, my first and foremost thought.
On another note. Do you know how this tomato got its name? What is the history of this tomato?

[gill_s]

Thank you for that info, Carolyn! I had just assumed that 'Couilles' translated to heart, but of course thinking about it French for heart is couer. Oh well, we learn something new everyday! From what I gather it is a very good tomato.

[GaryStPaul]

Carolyn, of those you sent me:

Gianinni: true to form; productive for me; liked the taste and will grow again.
Green Zebra Cherry: not true to form (a small round red)
Ludmilla's Red Plum: true to form; early, productive, a bit on the bland side but dehydrated well; will grow again.
Mémé (de) Beauce: no germination
Orange Minsk: true to form; excellent production and taste; this is now on my 'always grow' list, it's that good.

Thanks again, Carolyn.

[k3vin]

Meme Beauce - no germination

Moravsky Div - as previously reported, one of four was RL. This RL plant produced early, red, oblong fruits about 1 1/2 ozs. Quite tasty. Will replant these to try to determine if it was a crossed or stray seed. The other PL plants produced as expected.

Ste Columbe - as expected

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by GaryStPaul

Carolyn, of those you sent me:

Gianinni: true to form; productive for me; liked the taste and will grow again.
Green Zebra Cherry: not true to form (a small round red)
Ludmilla's Red Plum: true to form; early, productive, a bit on the bland side but dehydrated well; will grow again.
Mémé (de) Beauce: no germination
Orange Minsk: true to form; excellent production and taste; this is now on my 'always grow' list, it's that good.

Thanks again, Carolyn.

Gary, how many plants of Green Zebra Cherry did you grow and how many had a small round reds?

Just asking b'c it's the first time I've heard about any problems with that variety.

And glad to hear that the others were OK.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by k3vin

Meme Beauce - no germination

Moravsky Div - as previously reported, one of four was RL. This RL plant produced early, red, oblong fruits about 1 1/2 ozs. Quite tasty. Will replant these to try to determine if it was a crossed or stray seed. The other PL plants produced as expected.

Ste Columbe - as expected

Kevin, I had two different years for Meme Beauce, one being 2009 and one being 2010 so could you please tell me which year was written on the seed pack?

Thanks.

[habitat_gardener]

All are on my 2012 grow list. I couldn't start any seeds until mid-May (because the owners of the place where I was living put it on the market in early March and gave me 4 days' notice to move everything out of the apt. and into the garage, and then I had to finish packing up 7-8 tons of books as well as other stuff, move, find a new place to live, find a new job, etc., and I was averaging 3 hrs. of sleep until mid-April), so I started only Dwarf Project seeds and a few other short-season and determinate varieties.

So for 2012 I'm looking forward to Green Zebra Cherry, Burning Spear, Giannini, Ludmilla's Red Plum, and Tony's Italian. I will remember to give Burning Spear seeds some extra care and I hope I get some plants!

[k3vin]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Kevin, I had two different years for Meme Beauce, one being 2009 and one being 2010 so could you please tell me which year was written on the seed pack?

Thanks.

Sorry Carolyn, I did not save the empty pack that the Meme Beauce came in.

[GaryStPaul]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Gary, how many plants of Green Zebra Cherry did you grow and how many had a small round reds?

Just asking b'c it's the first time I've heard about any problems with that variety.

And glad to hear that the others were OK.

Carolyn, I grew three, of which I gave two away. I know of one that was ravaged by Roundup drift; if I find out about the other one, I'll post it. Gary

[maf]

Originally Posted by maf

Burning Spear - (1 grown) Very thin vine and super skinny droopy leaves. Got off to a slow start, doesn't seem to like the cool British summer too much. Has now set several fruit of the correct shape, but none have ripened yet.

Update: The Burning Spear ripened to the correct orange colour, good flavour.

[owiebrain]

Copying & pasting my April germination post below and will add how each did below that:

Originally Posted by owiebrain

Updating my previous post as I'm now throwing in the towel on the remaining seeds. It's been three weeks and I have enough of everything except for Fish Lake Oxheart. I'll just have to treat that sucker like gold. 'Tis the season to be overrun with a zillion other gardening duties so I need to move on.

Ludmilla's Red Plum (2008), 10 seeds sent, all started.
Results: 9/10 germinated.

• 5 germinated March 29 (4 days)
• 3 germinated April 3 (9 days)
• 1 germinated April 10 (16 days)

Prue (2003 or 2004?), 18 seeds sent, all started.
Results: 6/18 germinated.

• 2 germinated April 3 (9 days)
• 1 germinated April 5 (11 days)
• 2 germinated April 10 (16 days)
• 1 germinated April 11 (17 days)

Sara's Galapagos (2006), 20 seeds sent, all started.
Results: 3/18 germinated. (Most of the remaining of these still appeared to be viable and I've no doubt many more would have germinated.)

• 3 germinated April 5 (11 days)

Burning Spear (2009 or 2010?), 9 seeds sent, all started.
Results: 5/9 germinated.

• 4 germinated March 29 (4 days)
• 1 germinated April 1 (7 days)

Fish Lake Oxheart (2010), 6 seeds sent, all started.
Results: 1/6 germinated.

• 1 germinated April 3 (9 days)

I grew out 160-something tomatoes this year, about 65 varieties, and none of them had a stellar year. Carolyn's five varieties produced in spite of the many challenges. Nothing amiss as far as variety characteristics.

1 Sara's Galapagos planted out the last couple days of May. Quite a trooper. Had a pitiful spot but did well and was a favorite for taste. Will be in my rotation from here out.

2 Burning Spear planted out June 6th. Was one of the earliest to produce. Taste was a winner but fruit got smaller as the season wore on and we were hit with a dry spell. Good producer in the first half of the season but then dropped off (production) quickly thereafter. Tended to radial cracking/splitting -- rather a hybrid of the two if that makes any sense. LOL

1 Fish Lake Oxheart planted out June 6th. Really late to produce and incredibly low producer. Nice-sized, good looking fruit with a rather bland taste on the sweet side.

2 Ludmilla's Red Plum planted out June 6th. LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this one! Huge and juicy. Good production despite the challenges it faced. One of our favorites this year for taste. Will definitely be back for next year.

2 Prue planted out June 6th. I've grown this before but lost seed for it a few years back. Was glad to have it back and it fit my memory of it. Hefty, tasty fruits, decent production. A definite keeper in my rotation.

Thanks, Carolyn, for the seeds! I've saved seeds for all and have already started passing them along.

[Timbotide]

Carolyn,

Due to a bad case of Damping Off, which was my fault because I kept them covered way too long, all of the Plum Regal seed you sent me failed to grow. Sure wish I can try some again next year.
Thank you for sharing them with me.

Tim

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by frozengirl

For heavens sake dont chunk any seed! Of course it probably was me, my first and foremost thought.
On another note. Do you know how this tomato got its name? What is the history of this tomato?

Sorry, I totally forgot to answer you.

All I can say is that I got the seeds from the person I mentioned above and I'm no longer in touch with her and I don't have a clue why it was named Burning Spear and I don't know any history for it either.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Burning_Spear

Jeff Dawson was mentioned in the above link and while I used to know him well, and I think I know where he now works in CA I'm not up to e-mailing him to see what he can tell me b;c I don't know where he might have gotten the seeds and on and on it goes.

[ContainerTed]

After reviewing my 2011 notes and checking my first post here, I need to add one variety.

Yellow Riesentraube - all seeds planted - no germination.

It may have been the weird season we've had here. I had some germination failures with fresher seeds and have yet to figure them out. I'm logging it off to "The tomato gods giveth but in 2011, they taketh away.

Carolyn, thanks for letting us try this one. We'll get it sooner or later.

[Linda10]

Bobbie (2010) sowed 2 seeds and 2 RL plants came up in 5 days. Pink hearts had a very beautiful deep red interior, clear epidermis, good sized, few seeds, peels easily. Flavor about 7.5. Two months production. Fairly early.

Hays' (2010) sowed 2 seeds and 2 RL plants came up in 5 days. Pink hearts, some highly pleated, clear epidermis, medium to large sizes, flavor 8.0. Going on 4th month of production still. In this very bad year, this was a stand-out.

Moravsky Div (2008) sowed 2 seeds and 2 PL plants came up in 6 days. Small, red fruit with flavor at 7.5. Produced for 2 months.

Kardia Karpas -reported in other thread.

Fish Lake Oxheart (2010) sowed 2 seeds and 0 came up in 8 days. Later sowed the rest of the seeds and still no germination.