Going out on a limb here! - Page 3

Mark0820 · August 3, 2012

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Originally Posted by Fusion_power

Grafting is most beneficial when soil borne diseases are a problem. This includes nematodes which Florida has in abundance.

It can be highly successful if properly done. The biggest failure point is in not giving the correct temperature and humidity for the graft to heal.

DarJones

Do you sell grafted plants, or do you just graft them for your own personal use?

camochef · August 4, 2012

Needless to say, I am quite intrigued by this subject as it gave me the best tasting tomato I ever tasted. I would love to try it with some of my other favorites like Purple Dog Creek or Cowlicks Brandywine, for that mater any of my beloved Brandywines and Brandywine crosses. What could it do for Brandywine-Glick's or Brandywine- Sudduths. Imagine Liz Birt or Barlow Jap with increased taste and production! It's unimaginable!
More than likely, I'll be giving this a try in the future. Would also love growing two or more of my favorites on the same plant. The posibilities are endless.
Think of those with limited space being able to try two or three times the varieties they normally have room for.
I should have called this thread "The best tasting tomato I ever tasted!"
instead of "Going out on a limb here!"
Enjoy!
Camo

camochef · August 6, 2012

After having picked a few more ripe DDR-grafted, and some DDR from seed, and having talked to Dana, who told me she had grafted some Dana's German Johnson (Benton family strain) as well as a pink heart and the DDR's I'm firmly convinced this grafted plant is a Benton strain German Johnson and NOT a Dana's Dusky Rose.
It's still the best tasting tomato but I believe Dana made a mistake as it has all the traits of a Dana's German Johnson - Benton Strain; although it tastes and produces better.
Sorry to have created some confusion but it took a bit of investigation to determine this. I have saved seeds from all three just to be safe.
Camo

JamesL · August 6, 2012

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Originally Posted by camochef

JamesT,

Just returned from Dana's. The rootstock she used was MAXIFORT, purchased from Johnny's select seeds. They are:
50 seeds=$23.05
250 seeds= $74.05
500 seeds= $137.75
1000 seeds=$262.45
5000seeds= $1,140.30

The Clear clips to clamp them together 1.5mm(1/16 inch) to 4 mm (5/32inch) cost $42.50 for a box of 200.

The Orange clips to clamp them together are also $42.50 for a box of 200 and cover sizes from 1/8 inch to 1/4 inch.

Colosus root stock seed is currently -Out of Stock

Good Luck if your determined to try your hand at this. Dana said its rather difficult and she only had about 8 that were truely successful. She gave them to different customers and didn't keep any for herself.
She also did some with Dana's German Johnson and one with a pink heart shaped tomato.
Enjoy!
Camo

Camo,
Thanks for the follow up info.

JamesL · August 6, 2012

I read the attached thesis paper over the weekend.
A very interesting read. Use of Maxifort and Cherokee Purple as both a scion and as a rootstock.
"The best rootstock was ‘Maxifort’ which produced the biggest, heaviest fruits of the best quality. ‘Cherokee Purple’ as a scion produced the largest and heaviest fruits, while ‘Crista’ produced the highest quality fruits. ‘Mister Stripey’ was the most prolific in terms of number of fruits per plant."
http://digitalcommons.wku.edu/theses/138/
http://digitalcommons.wku.edu/cgi/vi...context=theses

Also of interest - Using Crazy glue (cyanoacrylate) to do the graft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fd6tBQTTAg

This is a link to a European patent application for "Method and apparatus for grafting plants with fast-curing adhesives" so it is probably worth a look at the crazy glue method which would appear to be rather simple.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP2116126.pdf

parah · August 10, 2012

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Originally Posted by JamesL

Also of interest - Using Crazy glue (cyanoacrylate) to do the graft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fd6tBQTTAg f

Brilliant! Thanks for sharing.
I have tried grafting with silicon clips. I always make
a mess of it. Fat finger syndrome.

Grafting with superglue looks like fun.
Time to start some seedlings!

JamesL · August 13, 2012

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Originally Posted by parah

Brilliant! Thanks for sharing.
I have tried grafting with silicon clips. I always make
a mess of it. Fat finger syndrome.

Grafting with superglue looks like fun.
Time to start some seedlings!

Please us know how it goes.
I plan on giving it a shot as well, but it won't be until late winter for spring planting.

parah · September 26, 2012

Amazon sells the Maxifort seeds. 10 seeds for $6.45 free shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/Maxifort-lycop...dp/B0042D489K/

Now I need Crazy glue!

JamesL · September 26, 2012

Parah,
I picked up "Future glue with brush" from the container store for 4 bucks.
They sell it at Amazon as well.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00009V3VG

August 4, 2012	#32
camochef Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gettysburg, Pennsylvania Posts: 707	Needless to say, I am quite intrigued by this subject as it gave me the best tasting tomato I ever tasted. I would love to try it with some of my other favorites like Purple Dog Creek or Cowlicks Brandywine, for that mater any of my beloved Brandywines and Brandywine crosses. What could it do for Brandywine-Glick's or Brandywine- Sudduths. Imagine Liz Birt or Barlow Jap with increased taste and production! It's unimaginable! More than likely, I'll be giving this a try in the future. Would also love growing two or more of my favorites on the same plant. The posibilities are endless. Think of those with limited space being able to try two or three times the varieties they normally have room for. I should have called this thread "The best tasting tomato I ever tasted!" instead of "Going out on a limb here!" Enjoy! Camo

August 6, 2012	#33
camochef Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gettysburg, Pennsylvania Posts: 707	After having picked a few more ripe DDR-grafted, and some DDR from seed, and having talked to Dana, who told me she had grafted some Dana's German Johnson (Benton family strain) as well as a pink heart and the DDR's I'm firmly convinced this grafted plant is a Benton strain German Johnson and NOT a Dana's Dusky Rose. It's still the best tasting tomato but I believe Dana made a mistake as it has all the traits of a Dana's German Johnson - Benton Strain; although it tastes and produces better. Sorry to have created some confusion but it took a bit of investigation to determine this. I have saved seeds from all three just to be safe. Camo

August 6, 2012	#35
JamesL Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 1,992	I read the attached thesis paper over the weekend. A very interesting read. Use of Maxifort and Cherokee Purple as both a scion and as a rootstock. "The best rootstock was ‘Maxifort’ which produced the biggest, heaviest fruits of the best quality. ‘Cherokee Purple’ as a scion produced the largest and heaviest fruits, while ‘Crista’ produced the highest quality fruits. ‘Mister Stripey’ was the most prolific in terms of number of fruits per plant." http://digitalcommons.wku.edu/theses/138/ http://digitalcommons.wku.edu/cgi/vi...context=theses Also of interest - Using Crazy glue (cyanoacrylate) to do the graft. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fd6tBQTTAg This is a link to a European patent application for "Method and apparatus for grafting plants with fast-curing adhesives" so it is probably worth a look at the crazy glue method which would appear to be rather simple. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP2116126.pdf

September 26, 2012	#38
parah Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Asia Posts: 152	Amazon sells the Maxifort seeds. 10 seeds for $6.45 free shipping. http://www.amazon.com/Maxifort-lycop...dp/B0042D489K/ Now I need Crazy glue!